Derek Jeter

Speaker 1 (00:00):
And Martinez in real life podcasts. First of all, thank you,
my pleasure, thanks for having me. No, thank you, because
you know you do this podcast and you want to
talk to people that you actually you know, I want
to talk to people that I like that, I'm inspired
by that, um and a lot of that that I
feel like I'm going to learn something from the conversation.

(00:22):
And a lot of people at that level are at
very high level who don't do a lot of this
type of thing. I appreciate. I didn't know. I never
knew you liked me. Thanks you stop it, you stop
it right now. I go to every Derek Jeter gala.
I go to the golf tour. I went to the
golf tournament this year. Golf in a little bit. Let's

(00:43):
let's start slowly to take a turn for the worst.
At the beginning, we even maybe a partied once or
twice in the nineties in the streets I tried to
not remember. Come on, it's probably right, You're probably right,
you did. You were not always the quiet. I don't
go in where Derek I saw you outside of this
different world, different world back then, no phones, no phones,

(01:06):
those social media, thank god, those are the good old days.
How are you? How is life? How is new life?
This is a new life for you? It is very
new life. I mean I have three girls. I know,
I see you with a little charm necklaces. All. Yeah,
you know. It's five three and a half and nine months.

(01:27):
The best thing ever, we're gonna get to that. We're
gonna get to that too. So I don't want to
get too fast. I have a lot of questions about
us as dad and family man. So this series of
conversations is about superpowers, right, So I always think about
because what I think is someone's like someone at your
level inspires all of us in different ways. And some
people might think it's your discipline or your work ethic

(01:50):
or and I was thinking about that on the way
in about one of the things that I've always been
inspired by you is your like humble confidence. You could talk,
you talk and talk was, but there was always like
a humbleness to it. Is that something you think about
that you create, that that is instilled a new or
is that just like a natural I first of all,

(02:13):
it's a good question. I just never really ever from
a young age, I never really got along with people
that were overly cocky you know, I think you have
to have confidence in anything. That's how you have success.
You have to be very confident. Um. But I was
always just like actions speak louder than words, so um.

(02:33):
And I also, look, I play a sport that's gonna
humble you. You fail, seventy percent of the time, goes on.
Is that the real number? That a real number? Yeah,
I mean I but I had three ten in my career,
so sixty nine percent of the time I failed, and
you go to Hall of Fame, right, So it's a
very humbling sport. So if you're not humble to begin with,
you're gonna learn that lesson early on. So I think
that it's it's more of maybe who I am as

(02:55):
a person. Yeah, but is there ever like a do
you ever cross the line? Dude? Because you went from
the outside, we always you walk that line so perfectly,
But are there are times where you're like the confidence
kicks in a little too extra hard, or the humbleness
maybe hurt you a little bit too much? You know,
I don't you know, I don't think so Anshi, because look,
I played in New York for twenty years, and you

(03:16):
can't fool New Yorkers you know, if if, if you
can try, you may be able to do it for
a year or two, but ultimately they're going to find
out who you are as a person. So I mean, look,
everyone has personalities that I think come out a little
bit more when you're amongst friends. You know, I'm sure
we get on the golf course, it might be a
little bit different. Even though I'm not good at golf,
but you might see another side. I might try to

(03:39):
kick in your head at how is there for you
to not be good at something? There's a lot of
things I'm not good at. Really, I just don't share
it with the world. Is it uncomfortable, No, because I
understand that in order to be good at anything, it
takes time. You don't just wake up and you're good
at something, right. It takes a lot of work. So yeah,
but you there's the thing about you. Even when I

(04:00):
was when I went to a Gulf tournament, I was like,
oh god, I'm so embarrassed. I'm gonna play with people,
and You're like you're going to dominate, And you said
it's so strangly that I actually, like I thought, oh God,
I've been thinking about things wrong, Like do you a
tech everything that way, you gotta have confidence you do.
Even if you know you're not good yet, you still should.
You should still say no, I'm going to dominate you

(04:21):
because you know what I think, in order for you
to grow as a person, you have to put yourself
in uncomfortable situations. Comfort and growth don't go together, right,
You have to be uncomfortable. Um, So dive in. And
no matter how you look at it, everyone's doing something
for the first time, and you could be an expert
at something, there still was a day you did it
for the first time. So I think you just gotta
keep that in mind. I've done it one hundred times

(04:42):
and I'm still I see you, I see it. We'll
get to it, We'll get to Okay. I really want
to be good, Derek, I really do. Do you think
that is what I think that about you? That it's
one of your superpowers? Is that that confidence and that
humble that combination of humble and confidence at the same time.
That's just my impression of you. But what do you think?
What do you think yours are like? If you had

(05:04):
to think about in life and in your career, also,
what are the things that make you that you're most
proud of about yourself or most unique. I think you know,
in order to be successful in anything you do, you
have to first be passionate about it. If you're not
passionate about it, you're not gonna work at it. You're
not gonna put the time in. It's got to mean
something to you. And I can't make you be passionate

(05:27):
about it. I mean, you talk about playing with teammates,
I can't. I want to win more than anyone, UM,
but I can't make you want to win. You either
have it in you or you don't. UM. So that's
why one thing, you know, talk about having three kids
and and you know, I'm joking with them, now, what
do you want to be when you get older? But
I want them to find the thing that they're passionate
about and I'll be there to support them. But it

(05:48):
all starts with with passion passionate. But the level I'm
talking about, the level that you operate with the greats
operate the Serena, how Serena operates, how Colbe operated, how
Lebron operates. This This like a thing that maybe you
can I'm always fascinated by it. I don't know if
I can particut like, just word it properly. But there's
a there's a calmness. It's like a you're like a

(06:14):
you attack things with you want to win. This is desired,
a strong desire to win. But there's also a calmness
in those moments. I was watching. I just watched in
the car you have three thousand moment, which is like,
it's like you can't you couldn't have written that it
was so great, But to be able to deliver that,
it has to be like you have to go over there.

(06:35):
You have to go out there with a calmness. Right, Yeah,
But I think that preparation, your repetition. You do something
over and over and over and over and over again.
Once you get in that moment, it's not new. You know.
You always hear a lot of times athletes say the
game slows down or it speeds up or speeds up
if you're not prepared. If you're prepared, the game actually
slows down for you. So I've always you know, throughout

(06:58):
my career, any moment I'm in, I've played it over
in my head. I've worked on it. So once you
get in that moment, it's nothing new. So I think
that's what keeps you calm. It's just being prepared. Yeah,
there's times. The thing is that so I'm a very
competitive person person I seen it right. Sometimes it makes

(07:19):
me perform poorly because I want it so bad. If
I'm playing pool and I had a great game it's
the eight Bowl, and I fumble because I'm ready, because
I want to win so bad that I fumbled, I
imagine you do not have that same problem. Well, no,
I look it. If you're going to be good at anything,

(07:40):
it takes time too, and it takes patience. Um. You know,
one thing I always like to ask people that have
been successful is what's your biggest failure along the way?
You know, I think you learned from other people's failures.
People assume you wake up one day and all of
a sudden, here you are. You're in the Hall of
Fame right now. It doesn't work like that. Takes a
lot of years. Um. So I I just think it's

(08:03):
just so much work has to go into it. There's
no magic formul They don't wake up and you're good
at something. You have to have patients along the way.
Even though I don't have a lot of it. I'm
trying to learn patients once again. You know, I've come
from a sport where it's you get a hit or
you don't. You win a game or you don't. Right,
it's instant gratification or failure, and life doesn't work like that.

(08:27):
There's disappointment in that though. You know sometimes in those moments,
like you said, yeah, you disappointment, you learned from it.
And I'm not afraid to fail. I've failed a lot.
You know, you talk about being in big moments. I've
struck out before. Remember any of those. I only remember
the highlight, the highlight. Remember, Yeah, that's what I do.
I just keep feeding your highlight reels. Um. But no,

(08:48):
it's it's it's you can't be afraid to fail. I'm not.
I'm not afraid to fail. People say that, but really
to live that way is really remarkable. But my mind,
I I also believe the last thing you think is
the first thing you do. You go back to golf, Okay,
that down for me. You're golf. Don't hit it left,
don't hit it left, don't hit it left. What do
you do? You hit it left right? So the last

(09:08):
thing you think is the first thing you do, which
is why I didn't like to surround myself with negativity.
I didn't like to read about it. You know, my
mind always before I was in a moment, my mind
would always go back to a time I had success.
Remember in high school, I had a game winning three
point shot sophomore year, and at that point, moving forward,
every big shot I wanted to take it because my

(09:30):
mind went back to the time I made it. Now
I missed a lot of them. Obviously, that's why I
stopped playing basketball after high school. But that's where my
mind went. That's good. So your last thought tell quote,
the last thing you think is the first thing you do,
first thing you do. I'm going to try that. I
go back out of the course. The last thing I
think is the first thing. You still have to have

(09:52):
some talent too, but thanks thanks for that. Well that
comes with work in practice and persistence and dedication and
all the things that you have and all the greatness
that comes with you. Um, I saw something. I love
the dock. It's so good, thank you, because we do

(10:13):
see the fiery side of them. You're always so humble,
you're always so gracious, you always say the right thing.
But I saw a little glimpse of that fire. Inside
the dock. You know what. I was so hesitant. I
wanted no part of doing a documentary because you know,
I just think, one, I I sometimes I think people
are gonna be interested in, right, that's what you think.

(10:36):
But then two, there's some things that you know, there's
still some things I didn't share, right there. There are
things you keep private. And I've said it before. Once
the toothpastes out of the tube, you can't put it
back in. And I, um, it started with I wanted
to to film the potential Hall of Fame call that
help was gonna get and film the induction ceremony, and
it turned into a larger discussion of you know, why

(10:58):
don't we do a documentary on your career? And I
was absolutely not, really absolutely not, because you're gonna have
to talk about this, You're gonna talk about that. I'm
just not gonna do it. And then I said, hey,
you know what, um, somebody may do one at some point,
so you might as well get your story out. And
one thing that I wanted to do was every situation

(11:18):
I was in, or every situation where it was a
perceived conflict, I wanted the other person to be able
to talk about it as well. It was not a
puff piece. I wanted to be open. I wanted to
be honest. I wanted other people to be honest to
how they felt. So, um, I think we're able to
capture it. Yeah, thank you, thank you. So now I'm
happy I I have it for you know, my kids.

(11:40):
At some point to watch. There was a moment that
I was I just told you I just watched the
three thousand hit this morning in the car, and there
was a moment where you, um, everybody's like going crazy
and the signs and the teams and standing up and
like you're quiet, and you come, you're excited. You go
into the dugout it's I'm watching it, and then you
stop yourself. You go back out to the field. And

(12:04):
I just was like, that's really dope. It was like
you were having this moment and you were and people
were in your team with you, within yourself and you
it was like, I don't know what, Maybe I made
this up in my mind, but the way it looked
to me sounds like a good story. It's such a
good story I can narrate from. You should have called
me for the doctor. Did something happen there? Do you
remember that or do you not. I don't remember that

(12:26):
moment in particular, but but I do think a lot
of times when there's a lot going on around, you
have to take a moment. I mean it could be
a second, could be two seconds, could be a thirty second,
could be a minute, but you do need to take
some time for yourself. And I think we talked about
before just slow things down for a minute. Yeah. Well,
I thought about the fact that perhaps you you gave
that to the crowd and you wanted to give them

(12:46):
a moment. And I've seen you just take your fans
into consideration, and I just wonder how much I guess
I'm asking, like, in your career, in your life, how
much do you give? How much of what you do
is for out the outside versus for yourself? Well, I
think first it starts with doing things for yourself. I mean,

(13:08):
and what I mean by that is you have a goal,
you have a passion, You set goals and you do
everything in your power to achieve it and then exceed
those goals. But you know, do you do for the fans?
I mean, look, you love to go out there, you
love to compete, but it wouldn't be the same if
there was an empty stadium, right, So you do it
for the fan. You know, New Yorkers they watch everything.

(13:31):
I grew up here, you know, twenty years I played
New York and and um, you know I've said this before.
There there's what is it The Truman Show, that Jim
Carey show on TV. That's how I feel my life
is right because Yankee fans watch every single day. Um.
So you do it for the fans. That's who make it,
you know, that's who makes it special for you. So

(13:53):
New York fans are the best. Yeah, of course they are.
And you've been so gracious always the fans. But I
just wondered, just like in real life, leg do you ever,
because sometimes I find myself I do things for the
outside and then sometimes and sometimes it's a battle like
what do I need for me versus what do I
need for the outside? And so I just wonder, in
your career, how much does that have it become a

(14:15):
thing for you, like what you wanted to do for
yourself or what? Ah? You know the thing is is
is what I wanted for myself was the exact same
thing that the fans wanted. So therefore I didn't have it.
There was no conflict, you know what I mean. I
wanted to win. That was the only reason why I played.
That was it. And you know that's all Yankee fans want,

(14:38):
and they want you to win. So therefore, you know,
we had the same agenda. I loved. Um. I read
the quote. I read the letter that you wrote to
Kolbe and the Players Tribune when he passed, and you
said that you know that you hope I don't want
to miss your words, but it was something to the
effect that of the greatest conversations that you've had with Kobe,
they were mostly about family, like the best converse stations

(15:01):
with him, And I just wonder what you could share
about that, what those were. Yeah, I mean we we
I didn't know Kobe that well, right, Um, you were
best friends. Got to know him a little bit more
after I retired, Um, and we did a couple events together,
we worked together with the Tribune, and we never had

(15:25):
a conversation about baseball or basketball. No, it was all
family related. I used to get on him because he
had so many girls right before I started. It was
funny we got another girl, man, Um, and then you know,
here I am with three of my own So it's
just it's it's it's amazing that you remember conversations and

(15:47):
interactions with people. You admire people for what they've done
in their profession, but getting a chance to actually get
to know him is what stands out to me. Not
what you necessarily do on the basketball corps or a
baseball field, is who you are as a person. I mean, look, look,
I'll be honest with you. Um, you're a Hall of famer.

(16:08):
You mention not the reason why I'm here. No I'm here,
no like I'm about to go do it and no, no, no,
I'm but I'm no, but I'm here because of the
relationship that we have. Who you are as a person, right,
that means more to me than what you were able
to accomplish in your professional career. Thank you. I think
it's easy for people to get lost in that sometimes.

(16:29):
I think you have a strong, amazing family. I haven't,
you know, my mom's amazing what mat raised me. I think,
But I think for some people who get thrown into
such a spotlight, it's not always easy for people to
kind of not get lost in that. I guess, yeah,
you get so focused on having success, get so so
focused on on fame and notoriety. Um, you lose sight

(16:54):
of who you are as a person. That's why it's
so important to people that you have around you. You know,
I've had the same friends for twenty five years. I've
been blessed to have great friends around me, and you know,
I brave about my family all the time. But you know,
you need to surround yourself with people who are gonna,
you know, tell you when you're doing things good, but
more importantly, when you're screwing up. You know, can you

(17:14):
take criticism for your friends? Oh? Yeah, definitely, you know,
I can definitely take criticis a lot of times when
I'm around people I don't really necessarily know. I'll ask
questions or give an idea or an opinion. I know
it's wrong. I just want to see if someone's gonna
I just want to see, Yeah, I just want to
see if someone's gonna just agree with what I said.
I haven't. I will something. I'll tell you how much

(17:35):
time we have, you're gonna do try it once, like
doing this conversation and see if I say the right thing. Everybody, Yes,
if I'm yes, man, you do that you have yes
around you. I don't know, I don't in my close
inner circle. What is the key to picking good friends? Who? Oh? Man,

(17:56):
I don't know if there's a key. I I mean,
you're talking to the wrong person. And I have trust
issues to begin with, you know what I mean. So
my friends that not my closest friend. I don't know.
I most people who have trust issues come from like
Rocky family, or they've been you know, I wouldn't say
necessarily rocky family. I think it's you know, just from

(18:18):
when I was a young when at such a young age,
you know it's in a biracial family, when when it wasn't,
I mean, it wasn't the norm in West Michigan where
I grew up. And you know, just through experiences you
have and people you interact with and you hear things
that were said about you. So I just have always

(18:38):
had trust issues. But my friends, like I said, all
my friends have been around. You know, you come to
the same people, the same friends, um that I've had
for twenty plus years. You're lucky, That's what I mean.
That's a great I've been blessed. That's a super super blessing.
Do you ever see people like we talked about Kobe
or Serena or do you ever watched are greats and

(19:01):
see similarities in they carry themselves, their performance, they're just
they're keys to life, you know. Do you ever see
do you ever see that? Yeah, there's there's a lot
of similarities I think in mindset, like what setting goals,
you know, no excuses, working harder than everyone else. Um,

(19:22):
you know, but when you're passionate about it's not work, right,
this is what you enjoy. People have different personalities, you know,
but I think ultimately the mindset is the same, you know,
not accepting failure. You learn from your failures because you're
gonna have some along the way, but you don't accept it. Um.
I know. When I was playing I I I would

(19:44):
just look around and watch and you could tell who
it bothers. When you don't win, it's like it's deep too.
It's not just like, oh man, I lost, you know,
it's like get dressed and go home and you're on
vacation the next day. You know. It's I just had
a real problem with people that didn't strive for excellence,

(20:07):
you know, because you only your care is only so long.
I mean, your career can be a lot longer than
a professional athlete. I played twenty years. That's a long
time for a professional athlete. It goes by quickly, and
you know, it just bothered me when people didn't have
the same passion for it that I did. Did you
take the time to try to change people or do
you take it as that's who they are? There's nothing

(20:29):
I can do about that person. I don't think you
can change them. I've said it before. Just act like
you care, man, Just fake it for three hours. It's
all I gotta do is fake it. Um, But you
know what I mean. But I don't think you can
necessarily change them. As it goes back to what we
said earlier, either means something to you or it doesn't.
I can't make it mean something to you. Don't I
say that, Brittany when I'm like, it's the first thing.

(20:50):
When if I'm interviewing an intern or whatever, It's like
the first thing I look for, and somebody is do
you care? It's like the first thing. I don't. I
don't even care about your resume. I don't care about
what you say. Your goals are like do you care? Yeah,
that's the first thing, because from there you could learn,
you could train, you can do all the things that
you know, you put the work in if you care
about and you can't make somebody care like that, has

(21:10):
they have to come with that. I was watching Serena
the other day and I saw Tiger Woods watching her.
He looked like he was enjoying watching her, which is maybe,
which is why I asked you that question. I wonder
what that's like for like one great to watch another
grade if there's you know, inspiration in that, or of
course you get inspired by other people. It doesn't have

(21:31):
to necessarily be in your own profession. You can be
inspired by someone in a completely different profession, you know.
And I like to watch how people operate. Yeah, now
that's what I mean. That's I'm trying to get to,
like what is what are the things that you like
about the operations of people? For the things that inspire you?
Like what inspires you even now post after baseball? Like

(21:51):
what are you inspired by right now? And you know,
I really I get inspired by And I'm not trying
to sound corny, but coming home, the kids grow up
so quickly, you know, and they have interests and and
you know, I'm I just can't wait to find out
what it is that they want to do, so I
can support them. But if they don't have that, there's

(22:15):
no way they're not going to have the Jeter drive.
There's no way, right you could, well, what if your girls?
What if one of your girls was like yeah, just no,
not really. My youngest is nine months so I'm still
picture any little time to figure out. But but the
other two, no, they have dry I mean they race
to who puts the seatbelt on first in the back seat,

(22:37):
and and and it's like a meltdown if they lose,
you know what I mean. So it's always did I'm
responsible for it? I feel bad. I feel bad. I
told the story yesterday. Actually, so my um oldest was
taking tennis lessons and she just turned five, So she
was taking tennis lessons when she was four. Now you
can only keep the attention span for twenty minutes before

(22:59):
she's starts drawn on the court, right, and um, we're
telling heyone there, are you ready to go to practice?
She's like, I don't want to go to practice. I
was like, all right, if you don't want to play tennis, fine,
you know, we'll find something else you want to do.
She said, well, I don't have to go to practice.
I already know how to play just four years old.
I'm like, this is my fault, I know. I feel bad. Wow.

(23:22):
How exciting though to see what they become? Yeah, so
so I I get inspired by them seriously, And I'm
not I'm not trying to sound corny. Did you know
nothing corny about that? Did you have m because you
decided by the way you were young? You know, you
were like the bachelor in New York. You know, you
were ever if you dated anybody or went out with anybody,

(23:45):
was like a thing for many years. But you chose
to wait till this time in your life to become
till after you finished baseball to become you don't get
married and have a family. I didn't meet the right one. Yeah, yeah,
that's thank you. Thank you. Make sure that makes it
in this show. Um, yes I was. You know that

(24:07):
and send it there you go. No, you know the
thing is, though, I it would not have been fair
to anyone, to to my wife if I met her
ten years ago, because I was way too selfish. What
I mean by that is everything was about my career,
you know, and everything was about performing on the field,
and I don't think it would have been fair to

(24:28):
my significant other or kids. I would have um, just
knowing my mindset, I've always been jealous of players um
that have had kids during their career. Kids are in
the clubhouse, on the field. I mean my girls tonight
the first time we're going to be on the field
of Yankee Stadium. UM. So I'm jealous of that. But
I just couldn't have. I couldn't have done it. But

(24:50):
do you have to make that choice and switch? Like,
because even you say that, you know, even the doc
I was seeing you say how it may be a
character flow, but you cut people off if they disappoint
you or they some you know whatever, if the loyalty
is if you don't trust them, and you cut people off.
But as a husband and as a dad, there's a
vulnerability that you put yourself into. It's different. Your kids

(25:14):
are going to when their teenagers, they are going to
do things that's going to infuriate you. Yeah, I'm sure
they do things now that infuriate But you get through it.
You get through it, I tell you, And it's it is.
It's it's so much fun, it really is. I keep
asking people, as they get easier, as they get older,
don't doesn't. So my Nichols in college nineteen doesn't get easier.

(25:37):
Worried every day is good, you know, bigger problems as
they get older, for sure. Is they're going to pick
the right people? Is you know, you just want to
be present. I want to be present, which is another
reason why it would not have been fair. Yeah. I
don't consider it to have been fair because my parents
were always present, you know, until I got in high
school and I started really playing summer ball like sports

(25:59):
an hour complete different than when I grew up. Um.
You know, I played twelve baseball games a year until
I was almost in high school. You know, now you
have kids playing sixty seventy. My nephew plays sixty games
a year, you know what I mean. Um, So I
always had one of my parents present at everything we did,
you know, whether they split up, go to my sister's
softball game, when we go to my sister's game, when

(26:20):
we come to my literal league game. Um, whether it
was school plays or school events, one of my parents
was always there, if not both. So I always wanted
to be president from my kids from Instagram, it seems
like you really are Instagram. It's the indication of what
kind of girl dad you are. You're doing a fantastic job. Yeah,

(26:44):
I appreciate you talking about another one I didn't want
to do with social media, you know, I swore on
that one I would never do it as well. But
you know, I get it. You know you have a
lot of projects. I have a lot of things that
I'm interested in. You want to share with with with
the world, and so, yeah, I never thought, how are
you feeling about it? How's it going? It's it's a

(27:04):
weird beast. Um. Yeah, I'm trying to trying to see.
I don't even know if I can articulate it. It's um.
I just never thought, Okay, it doesn't cross my mind
when I'm doing something to take a picture and capture
it and share it with everyone. But that's not the
first thing that comes to mind. Um. But I I'm
learning and I want to share some of the projects

(27:27):
that I'm involved with post career. I want to share
that with people. How do you? Because I know you
have we'll talk about some might as well talking about
it now, But some of these projects, how does that
I don't know. Do you still have is it that
same eager eagerness to win? Yeah? That you put into
these projects, no question. I mean it's all about you.

(27:47):
Get asked quite a bit about Okay, some of the
difference between professional sports and business. Same thing. They have
to have great team that you as aggressively, um, concerned
about winning. Yeah. Really you have to be you know,
you have to be I. You gotta pay attention to
your competition, regardless of what it is. Competition eliminates complacency.

(28:09):
That's what I like to say. And and um, you know,
whether it's in business or in sports, the same thing.
You find out who your competition is and you want
to beat them. What do you Let's let's talk about
So let's talk about one of them, the greatness. Greatness wins. Yeah,
Greatness wins is clothing line. It's more than well, it's
an athletic apparel. Athletic, yes, greatness wins. Greatness wins. See. UM,

(28:34):
My thing is I've had great relationships throughout my career.
Obviously you were athletic apparel. So I think any time
that you've had long term relationships and you're passionate about it,
do you try to think about, you know, what are
some of the things that I could do differently right?
And what are some of the things that I would do.
I think it would be better. And we launched Greatness

(28:55):
Wins a couple of months ago. And you know, the
way I like to look at it is two things.
One is people talk about greatness they think it's an
ultimate goal. I don't think it's a goal. I think
it's a mindset, right. I think you have to have
a mindset um. And it doesn't necessarily have to be
in sports. You know, it can be an everyday life,
working out, staying healthy. You know everyone thinks they're an athlete, right.

(29:18):
You know we we both think we're golfers. Well see
I dragged myself into that. We both think we're golfers, right,
So so I know you are. I'll keep telling yourself.
See I told you you're you're gonna dominate. Yes, yes,
you can dominate. So we started the brand based on
first of all, performance. We want performance, apparel um, consistency, fit, sustainability, comfort, um.

(29:42):
So it's it's exciting. We brought in Misty Copeland design
the female line, Yes, the women's line that's gonna come
out next spring, I believe. Yeah. So you have the
same drive about it like I do. Yeah, I do.
Because anytime you put your name on something, you to
be successful, and if it's not, they're going to say

(30:02):
you didn't succeed. So can you coach us regular folks
greatness on that on what that is? No, because I
didn't interview with Mike Tyson the other day and he
told me that I needed to. This is his advice
to me. I needed to talk more ship. I needed
to be like I needed to talk to my ship.
I needed to be my own hype person. I needed
to be like h. So he started doing it for me.

(30:24):
You are this. He started telling me listen and not
repeating it. Yeah, And it didn't really suit me, like
not my personality. But I understand. Yeah, but you can
do it internally. You don't have to vocalize it. I mean, okay,
talk to myself all the time. What do you think
I'm not going to tell you. There is one thing, um, Derek,

(30:45):
you did you say, Derek? Do you call yourself Derek?
I don't. I don't know if it's that formal. I
don't think it's that formal. Accounts Derek Cheater. Yeah, yeah, yeah, No,
I think it's just it's just it's it's just repeating
it like I said, I think your mindset is what's
most important, you know. I think that that that is

(31:05):
how you have success. I think when you start doubting yourself,
that's when you have a problem. You have a real problem.
So it's almost just reinforcing yourself that, hey, look, you
know you're gonna succeed here. It's not a question. You're
gonna succeed. And if you don't, you deal with it afterwards.
What you don't do the last thing you think is
the first thing. Yeah, so it's just constant reinforcement. Okay,

(31:26):
I'm gonna talk to myself more. There you go in
this positive way. I really don't think I ever did that.
I think I was driven. I think it was just drive.
I just love what I did. I have a natural
curiosity about people and things. And then later as I
my career started growing, then I started developing that, like
that competitiveness. I was always competitive in games and things

(31:47):
like that, but in terms of my career, it wasn't
until later that I um learned to kind of develop that.
But I never really got I don't want to say arrogance,
but that I was missing offidence. But you have inner confidence.
I don't believe I'm arrogant at all. Yeah, No, I
don't think you're arrogant at all. No, But I'm confident always,

(32:09):
never doubts any will. I look like I talk about
uncomfortable situations. Everyone putting thrust it in an uncomfortable situation.
And then yeah, you have doubts. But I think the
more you do it, the more comfortable you get. Um.
So yeah, there's there's always times you're doing something for
the first time, you know, and that's it. That's the

(32:29):
only time it's really fascinating. That's not the average person.
Just so you're okay, So I'll give you one, okay. Um.
When I was younger, my biggest fear right, well, first
of all, my biggest fear in life is being unprepared.
That's my biggest Yes, my biggest fear is being unprepared.
But I hated speaking in front of people. If we
had school reports, we had to do um presentations, we'd

(32:54):
have to do my parents would make me do it
in front of them the night before, and I was
scared to death even in that in the house to
do it in front of my parents, and I mean
I would be sweating for two weeks and and now,
who would have thought. You know, you go to Yankee Statum,
you address fifty people, you know, or you do speaking
engagement and you have thousands of people, and you know,

(33:15):
I don't get nervous anymore. You don't ever know. I mean,
I don't. I don't. No, I think you know. It's
it's it's funny because people ask about nerves and and
you know you're playing a big game, and they say,
are you nervous? And not not nervous? You know, I
get butterflies, which means you care, you want to have butterflies.
But I'm not nervous, like okay, what's gonna happen? You know,

(33:36):
But you get butterflies, and I always get butterflies. You
just do it anyway. You just win anyway. No, No,
I just look lost a lot. You wouldn't you would
more in my highlight really went always the highlights. I
love this for a line. It's a great title, it's
a great name. Um. There was something you were talking

(33:58):
about in the dock, going back to your kids and
about the choice to whether it's a choice or however
it landed in your life and it happened clost to
your career, your baseball career. They never got to They
don't know you as a They never got to see
you in hit your three thousand, or win a championship,
or they never saw you in your baseball greatness. Um,

(34:21):
they only get to see the highlight reels. Is that
I don't know? Is that a weird thing for you?
Do you do you almost like teach your kids about that.
I almost like the fact that that's a side that
they don't know. Really I do, Yeah, I I because
I want them to look at me as as you know,

(34:45):
who I am when I'm at home every day, you know,
And and they never had the experience. I mean, they
retired my number at Yankee Stadium. Hannah was pregnant with Bella.
That's the only time I mean she was there. Obviously
she wasn't born yet. But they haven't been in the
Yankee Stadium. So they've seen a couple of highlights because

(35:07):
you know, some of the documentary footage and they'll just
say daddy and then they'll turn around and start doing
something else. So yeah, yeah, exactly. Um, so I'm almost
I about that. No, No, not at all, not at all.
Any regrets at all, by the way of anything in
your life. Um, I don't. I don't think. I don't

(35:28):
think you can sit here and say you have regrets
because I think even mistakes that you made, I think
it helps shape who you are. Someone said, if I'd
go back and change anything, what I would do is
is my last season, I kept a journal um every day.
It was like one sentence, two cents, and that wasn't
even necessarily about anything to happened in the game, just
how I was feeling at the time. And I wish

(35:50):
I would have done that my entire career because there's
so many things that you forget. One of the great
things about doing the documentary was to get a chance
to reflect on my career, and there's so many things
for it about Like they interviewed North I think ninety
people for this documentary, and unfortunately all of them weren't
in it because you know, there's seven episodes and there's
a lot of footage there and people remember stories and

(36:14):
you know, you forget about it. So I wish I
would have done that. Yeah, that would have been It
would have been great for us too, because maybe one
day you could have made that a book. All the
inner thoughts. Yeah, I don't think I'll be around for
that to come up later. We have, like Quincy Jones
there anymore, But you just spill it all at some point.

(36:34):
That's an exciting time, I'm sure. So what's next? So
what does does your Because we talk a lot about
purpose on this podcast, like I would imagine what your
purpose was maybe in your twenties, what you thought your
purpose was in life has probably shifted. But do you
think about that? Um? Ah No, I don't from that,

(36:58):
you know. Really, I my my number one priority, I
should just say, is taking care of my family, you know,
and that's that's. Um It's like I said, my oldest
just turned five, and priorities change. You know. You're always

(37:18):
hear people say, oh wait, you have your own kids,
and I was the one that, you know. I when
people run into people, they pull out their phone tries
to show me pictures of their kids. I had zero
interests none. I have no interest. Yeah, no interest in
seeing anyone else's kids. And now I'm that person I
pull out my phone and show my kids. Everything changed,
so I would of course, yeah, I will roll the masks. Okay, okay,

(37:43):
I would be happy about that. Really, So you don't
think about that never have like my purpose in life,
never had those thoughts. Purpose in life is just to
be a good person. I think that's that's what I
try to do. You know. I treat people how I
want to be treated. You know. I try to be
respectful to everyone. I think. You know, as you know,
sometimes in life, when you have some sort of success,

(38:05):
you're giving a platform, and once you're giving that platform,
you try to elevate others alongside you. So I try
to give as many people opportunities that I can, whether
it's in business, um, in life. I'm trying to support
as many people as I could through the Foundation. You know,
I just think it's it's it's almost your duty to

(38:26):
do so. Yeah, No, you guys do amazing. Shout out
to Charlie by the way, who's always keeps me in
the loop that's happening with the Foundation, and it's really
lovely to see it. Inspiring to see what you guys do. There.
I know the Galops coming up. I'll be there, get
my offit together. There you go in the theme of
Superpowers as we like wrapping um, is there any like

(38:49):
something that you see a trait or a character in
that you admire when you see it in other people
that you don't necessarily have for yourself, like a superpower
that somebody else has, A kind of wish. I wish
I was more like that. Um Man, that's a very
good question. I've been asked a question characteristic that someone has,

(39:14):
um I would man, I would say people's ability to
be so comfortable in certain situations, Like I'm very comfortable
around people I know, right, but you get into it
just takes me so long to get comfortable with people.

(39:34):
So I maybe it's don't maybe it's some more of
an outgoing personality, right, but that's that's not not who
I am. That way with my friends and family, but
until I know you, I won't be that way. So
I've always admired people that are so comfortable and not
even saying comfortable in your own skin, very comfortable in
my own skin, but just comfortable love enough to let

(39:58):
your guard down. But that's this is not who I am.
Is it exhausting? Though? Sometimes to be like you can't
put your guard down doesn't get get tiring sometimes, No,
because that's who I am. It's not like I just
put it up, you know, a few weeks ago. It's
just by the way. I say that with no judgment
because I probably in the same way I tend to

(40:21):
be guarded. Yeah, it's a good thing. I'm big on boundaries. Yeah,
I think it's I think that's a good thing. I
don't necessarily think it's a bad thing. Yeah, alright, So
what else do people need to know? We have the line? Um?
What is the future? I mean, what is the the future? Like?
What do you care about looking forward with? Yeah? I mean,

(40:41):
you know, I get asked quite a bit and you know,
are you gonna do something else in baseball? Um? I
don't know. You know, I'm sure I'll do something. Um.
You know. I I had the chance through ownership in
in front office to be exposed to another side of
the game. And I think people are always so quick

(41:01):
to say the other side. I just look at it
as another side of the game. So I think there's
experiences and there's knowledge that I've that I've gotten, and
whether I share it with individual players, group of players,
an organization, or directly with the fans, I still want
to be involved with the game because I love the game.
You still I do? I do. I love the game.

(41:23):
Do you watch it a little? Yeah? I do? Now
I do now more highlights, you know, because I got
a lot going on in the house. You know. I mean,
I go to sleep at seven thirty eight o'clock now
I do. It's sad, It's really sad. It's sad to
say I'm up early, but yeah, I go to sleep
very early. Um. Put you, I'll do something in the game.

(41:43):
We would love to see that. That would be see
that would be something for the fans. They would love that.
Thank you so much, of course, thanks for having me
all that in real life. That's your real life. Yeah,
thank you, thank you, thank you, Giles, thank you everything.