#497: John Parker Romo SAVES Minnesota Vikings in win over Jacksonville Jaguars

Speaker 1 (00:07):
John Parker Romo, John Parker Romo, John Parker Romo, John
Parker Romo. You know my first reaction after the Vikings
defeated the Jacksonville Jaguars in a thrilling twelve to seven victory.
At the end of the day, the Minnesota Vikings advanced

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to seven and two, And when we look back on
this season's past, we looked back two years ago.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
In this season, nobody's gonna.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Think about John Parker Romo's four field goals or how
the Vikings won this game.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
They're just gonna look at the record seven and two, And.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Going back to my first reaction, John Parker Romo, four
for four.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Has all the Minnesota Vikings points.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
And in about four weeks, if Will Richard is back
healthy for the Minnesota Vikings, he's gonna be cut and
it for a new team.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
He's gonna get the game ball too. Like there's no weal.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Give me the keviital Colle speech here, you're the best
impression of that.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
I don't know if I have the best impression, but
you know, yeah, this guy showing perseverance. We loved him
in the offseason, but we couldn't justify cutting a draft pick.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
So we brought him back.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
When times are tough, you're not always gonna be your best,
But day he was.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
John Parker Romo.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Does anybody else offensively deserve a game ball besides John
Parker Romo.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
We Hockinson finally was decent. Yeah, yeah, a lot of
conversions from Hockinson. Jones was fine. I don't know Cam
Robinson truck to that one guy on the interception, although
it didn't end up nice.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah, I looked at John Parker roman then. Now I
know I made fun of I always gonna get cut
in four weeks when Bill Reter comes back. It is
the reality of it. But the truth also behind the
reality is that he's auditioning for his next NFL team
right now. So you know, even though he's gonna get
cut by the Minnesota Vikings, there's always teams looking for

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kicker help. There's always teams struggling, and John Parker Romo
submitted a fantastic opening day audition.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Going four for four.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
YEP, a forty five yard stield goal was his longest,
and you know his last one, he barely snuck that
one in the uprights. Yeah, and but doesn't matter went
in if Iking sealed the deal. What's your overall reaction
to this game besides John Parker Romo.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
My first reaction is, like I said, there's a couple
of reactions. So my first one is that good teams
find a way to win. Hey, right, team, that was
an ugly game. I mean a lot of ways, it
wasn't I guess in some ways? Right, you control the possession.

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You ran more plays in the red zone than they
ran all together.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Isn't that wild? That's crazy?

Speaker 4 (03:16):
It seems impossible.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
I mean, you held them to less than ten first downs,
you turned them over a couple of times. So like
everything you did that was great. You know, a lot
of good things, but it comes down to mister Sam
Darnold and the decision making was a little suspect today.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
But again we'll get to that in a minute. I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
But great teams find a way to win. I'm sure
if we look back at the two thousand and nine
Vikings who went thirteen to three, I'm sure there were
some clunkers in there, right, I'm sure there's games that
we don't think about that they squeaked out. You go
to Jacksonville kind of that trap game. They're not very good.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
But they've been playing teams competitively.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Like last week they lost the Legals lost by five
Trevor Lawrence throw a game interception. Now the week before
they played another good team and they lost by like
three points.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
So yeah, yeah, even though they're two and eight.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Now there, they've been a competitive team in almost every
single game this year. I looked it up prior to
the game, and five of their seven losses have been
by one score or less. Now they lost twelve to seven,
So the Classic can't win one score games. Now six
of their eight losses have been by one score or less.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
And then really too, I know, like people like look
at Mac Jones being in the next you know, filling
in for Trevor Lawrence and go al. You know, that
makes it a lot easier. I mean, if you look
at their stats, Max Jones isn't really much worse than
Trevor Lawrence's overall anyways, So it's I mean, they're not wrong.
They both kind of stink, except one as the Max

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contracts the other one is a backup, but they're both
at the same level of like nah, so that wasn't
a reason to be over the excited either, other than
I guess he hadn't played in a few months. But no,
I mean the biggest I mean, the biggest takeaway is Darnold.
I think it's is this going to be a problem
in the playoffs? And the answer is probably yes, right,

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is it not?

Speaker 4 (05:13):
It is?

Speaker 3 (05:13):
I mean unfortunately, I mean I tried to phrase it
like a question, as if it wouldn't be a question,
but it is going to be aggressively a question for
his decision making. I mean, that's a couple of weeks
in a row where it's just not even like, oh,
an aggressive mistake where I understand what he's going for exactly.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
The first one was okay, deflection defenders stuck his hand.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
In there, trying to force it somewhere he shouldn't, I
get it.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, right, At least the defender wasn't standing in front
of Jefferson. He deflected it and then went to another guy.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
But the other two, oh wow, and all three were.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Going towards Jefferson, which I don't think is coincidence either.
I think I think he likes to force things into
justin Jefferson, and he has television towards him.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
I think that's a problem.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
But he's also just missing throws.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
I mean on that one little corner route, like I mean,
I think Mark Sanchez was the guy, right he said,
that's either got to be back pylon where your corner
rout's running deep to the back pylon, or that's gonna
be at the front pylon to you know, the boundary,
so that he can either make the catch towards out
of bounds and he throws it like behind him. Yeah,
loats it. I mean, that was just awful to put

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it simply. I mean he's had a few of those,
and like the other one where he's just trying to
force it in, it's like he just don't know what
he's looking at.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
Some of these times.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
He's just again aggressive mistakes. I think KOs always is
going to be an aggressive play caller. And if you
throw interceptions where he's trying to drive the ball down
the field, I think that's part of the Vikings offense, right,
That's part of what they want Darnald or JJ or
Cousins to do, you know, in the past, drive the

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ball down and field and take those chances on those
play action passes. But his interceptions and decision maker right
now is just kind of more just bad throws, which
is again concerning a little bit.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Right, and remember the days when he was a part
of the MVP conversation.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Oh yeah, After the.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
First uh what four or five weeks of the season,
he had eleven touchdowns, three interceptions, had three more touchdowns
than the second quarterback in the NFL. And since then,
since the Detroit Lions game, he's had one, two, three,

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four or five six touchdowns and six interceptions. So the
clock has flipped on Sam Darnold. And you know, you
look at his statistics these last few games. Against the Rams,
he was eighteen for twenty five. Against the Colts, he
was twenty eight for thirty four. Against the Lions, he
was twenty two for twenty seven. But the statistics aren't

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really telling this entire story of Sam Journald. They did
in the Jacksons Jaguars game, but you could start to
see a slow regression after the first four to five
weeks of the season because those first few weeks here
was unbelievable and there's no way that was going to
be sustainable. And he did exactly as everyone anticipated. He

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kind of came back to earth a little bit. I
called that out. I get called out by the fan
base and he was twenty two or twenty seven. How
can you say he regress, Well, you can tell that
Sam Donald just hasn't had the fluidity, the confidence, the
accuracy that he had in the first four to five
weeks of the season.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
And you know, everyone comes.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
With it, Well, there's a here's the number three overall
pick for a reason, And it's so true. I mean,
of course you're gonna have talent if you're the number
three overall pick. But at the same time, people are
busts all the time. You know JaMarcus Russel number one
overall pick, Well, he's the number one overall pick for
a reason. So doesn't really mean anything if you're not

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playing well. And now we're starting to see Sam Donald
kind of find the median, right, He's not the best
quarterback in the league. It's probably not the worst quarterback
in the league. He's probably somewhere in that like eighteen
to twenty two range of how good of a quarterback
he really is.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Yeah, it would be interesting to actually, not that we
need to do this, but yeah, to rank them all
and figure out where you would actually take Donald. But yeah,
when we were talking a handful of weeks ago, The
point was not oh, Donald's bad, It was Donald's playing
better than even the averages say he should. You know,
even if he's playing well, he's still playing better than

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he should be. And now, yeah, he's kind of came
back and this, you know, you could argue to your
point a little bit today is maybe on the lower
end or the worst end of what he what his
window is, or what his ranges of outcomes. Excuse me,
because he was pretty He was pretty bad in terms
of key moments.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
He was bad.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
He had some great third conversions, he hit Hockinson finally
on some again third dunk conversions, didn't really get any
shots down the field that were meaningful, but so there
were obviously he showed splashes and moments and stuff, but
when it came down to it, I had some pretty
bad throws.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
The time of possession.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
You mentioned this a little bit, but Viking's time of
possession was forty two minutes in nineteen seconds compared to
seventeen minutes and forty one seconds for the Jacksonville Jaguars,
which is the most in the Vikings time of is
the most time of possession among any team in the
NFL this season. Something that I thought was fascinating is that. Okay,

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Mac Jones and the center have their fumbled snap. Harrison's
Phillips picks it up. Vik's kick afield goal of course,
John Parker Romo. The next possession of the Jayguars get Byral
Murphy Junior picks it off third and one. I think
Vikings did a little play action. Sam Donald got sacked.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
Yeah, and I didn't like that one either.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
No, No, that was questionable. And then Vikings punted. And
despite those two turnovers in a row, which happened, well,
the first one happened and Vikings still go range. The
second one happened at like the fifty yard line. Bikers
just got to get a few yards kick a field goal,
go up by eight points, so Jaguars have to go

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downscore touchdown, two point conversion. They still didn't put the
game away. No, Jaguars are just give it the game
to the Minnesota Vikings. And then the Vikings, you know,
to credit them a little bit. Their offensive has moved
the ball down the field the entire game drive and
you mentioned he said they had more offensive plays in

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the red zone than the Jaguars had plays all game.
So in order to do that, you've got to be
driving down the field, but they just didn't finish off
the drives. And credit to the Vikings defense because anytime
that they got put in a position where you know
they needed to make a play, you know, are they
going to run out of gas? Are they gonna have
enough energy to finish they get this thing out? Are
they gonna play a prevanned defense where you know, the

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Jaguars are gonna march all the way down the field
and they're gonna have like a minute left at the
twenty yard line to try to punch it in the
end zone for the win, buying them delivers Viral Murphy
Junior delivers, Harrison Smith delivers or Harrison Fields delivers.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
I mean, and Cashman was huge in this game too.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Yeah, I think that's what we've been missing the last
couple of weeks, is you, I mean a guy like
Cashman where I know we've hit the point before, but
having Cashman, Ben Ginklin Grenard just it is a lot
better than having Hunter and Cousins. It just is Cousins
that hand up with a decent money yardage. But they
lost again to the Saints today and he had a
kindly interception MM hmm. Again, Darnold to Cousins. Cousins is better,

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no doubt, but it's not like it's this huge drop off.
And again the drop off is kind of over whatever.
It's overcome by the amount of defenders that we were
able to pick up that are impact players this year.

Speaker 4 (12:57):
And it's even Gilmore.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
I know he's not been amazing, but the only way
you can sign him is with a guy like Cousin's gone.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
So it's been nice, you have.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
I wonder how many times the defense was just rolling
their eyes as the Vikings just seriously, I mean they
just kept coming out and doing what they need to do.
I mean, you have four hundred and two yards to
one hundred and forty three. I mean, that's that's a
good old fashioned butt kicking for both sides. But obviously
on the score it was not right.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Sam Donald twenty four for thirty eight?

Speaker 4 (13:25):
What needs you know?

Speaker 1 (13:27):
It's says he here he has fourteen incompletions, but it's
kind of twenty seven for thirty eight?

Speaker 4 (13:35):
Classic?

Speaker 2 (13:36):
What do you think? What do you think about that?

Speaker 4 (13:38):
That's a classic classic humor right there? What do you
think about? Usually?

Speaker 3 (13:44):
I am one where I will always err on the
side of aggressive in terms of like going just because
I would much rather go win a game than try
to evacuate into winning a game. Yes, just I mean,
I don't know, especially at the highest levels, Like I
don't know, every team is capable of beating you pretty

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much in any given day, and even today the I
know the Bears kind of suck, but the Patriots destroyed
the Bears today, Right, You just never know what's going
to happen.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
He had a few questionable ones.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
I thought, usually I don't question play calling it hardly ever,
but that one reverse Naylor was weird.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
Time that I get where you're you're driving.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
You're driving, you're driving, and it's almost like you had
that one in the practice playbook and you hadn't pulled
it out yet.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
I want to submit a rule for the wide receiver reverse. Okay,
this is my rule going forward for the wide receiver reverse.
There should always be an opportunity to throw the ball
down field to a Justin Jefferson and thrown out a bounce.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
Yeah, because it goes bad.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Regardless of what happens on the reverse. If Justin Jefferson
goes down the field, he's taking a defender with him. Yeah,
you know, instead of having to block the yards if
you're trying to go route, Yeah, you're.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Just taking it with them. So you make it a
pass play reverse with the option of a pass.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Well, if the reverse isn't there, instead of losing six
yards like Jalen Naylor did on that play, have the
wide receiver option and just have him truck it out
of bounds as far as you can go, and then
the play is you know nothing, he didn't lose yards,
you didn't gain yards.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
Just play over.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Let's get onto the next one. What are your thoughts
on that submission?

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Yeah, the only thing you have to be careful about
is the legal man don't feel. But other than that,
it's good. So make sure if you linemen know that.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
I mean that's true, then you're fine, right because usually.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
By that point they're not they're probably not getting up
to the linebackers yet. I mean, that would be the
biggest rate. Usually they're trying to block up to linebackers.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
But that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
That's the only thing you'd lose is that if he
does throw it away, it's going to be a flag
if if they're working too far ahead.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
But anyway, yeah, that.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
One was weird, and then the third one epacially the
third and one get the aggressive play action, but again situational,
you got to think about, hey, we just need a
couple more yards or you know, or in our current
positions that we have a chance for a field goal
to eight point game.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Do a quarterback sneak and you can get one yard.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
Right, yep, exactly, So that one I didn't really like either.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Again, you're gonna put the ball in the hands of
Sam Darnold who turned it over three times, four times,
and and the Jaguars bailed the Vikings defense out. Yeah,
on the on the on the hands of the face
to Justin Jefferson.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
Yeah, and to me, it's one.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
If that's the first quarter, great, Yeah, you know that's
a you know, second quarter, you know whatever. Earlier in
the game, third and one, that's a great shot opportunity
or within you know, forty yards of the you know,
could go for the end zone kind of thing, if
you want to take a real deep shot whatever.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
Great, all that good. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
Situationally, when it's the fourth quarter, you know, a field
goal is what you know, essentially, I mean, it saves
you that it's going to be a touchdown. An a
two plankin version and they have to drive, you know,
the eighty to do it. You got to just try
to get the yardage at that point probably.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
But right, I agree with you, And I'm not one
to question play calling like as as just like you aren't,
but those two.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Play calls deserve to be questioned, specifically.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
The reverse what are you doing? It's what was it
like first and ten? You need a touchdown, put the
game away. It's not like you're at your own thirty
yard line and there's lots of room to run. The
field gets condensed at that portion of the field. So
I'm not really sure what was going on there either.
And I think there's a difference between Okay, if the

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Vikings were in a third and seven situation and we're
at the fifty yard line when they ran that third
and one play, well, then pass the ball, get the
first down, do what.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
You gotta do. Third and one.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Darnald's off the entire game, and then you put the
ball in his hands when he's made poor decisions throwing
the ball to Justin Jefferson and really Hockinson and was
really the only.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
And Josh Oliver.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Those were the two Lady wide receivers in the game.
Jeferson had five catches for forty eight yards. Josh Oliver
four catches fifty two yards. Dj Hoginson eight catches seventy
two yards.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
Yeah, that was a I don't know what it is.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yeah, free number three.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
On the uh on this on a positive note, Did
you see the forty nine ers today?

Speaker 2 (18:30):
I did not see that.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
I saw.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
I saw Baker Mayfield. Oh they want.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
I saw Baker Mayfield's like stiff arm throw on fourth
and seven.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
But they uh, I think they had They had two
or three missed field goals today, and after the last one, I.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Saw Debo getting the long.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
Snapper the long snapper and hit the kicker in the face.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
And hey, but maybe it was a good tragy because
then he made the game winning field goal a couple
of later.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
So I don't know, but at least that's.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
Ever happened here in Minnesota, I don't think any Do
you think the game ball went to Deebo?

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Samuel Motivating, Jake Moody, this guy was. This guy faced
controversy in the face. He was never afraid.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
If controversy was the name of our kicker, Devo face
it right in the face.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Well, Vikings are seven and two. Vikings.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Devens saved him. Sam Donald let the Vikings down the
field many times, three picks, zero touchdowns. Anything else in
this game that we need to address. Oh, one more thing,
what about the the second interception Donald had to justin Jefferson.
That's the attempted to throw and it appeared that the
ball hit the ground. Just come out and say it

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stands because it was inconclusive. Of course, that's gonna fire
everybody up on the Minnesota Vikings side, at least to
the fans wise, because you could almost see that the
football hit the ground. But the problem was is that
the inconclusive evidence. I saw the replay and I'm like,
I don't think they're going to overturn that because you
can't tell where the left hand of the defender was

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and you can see us up here. But then also
it came down here and what if the what if
the balls resting on his elbow or something like that.
That called was a little controversial.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Yeah, I mean, I think most people would probably say
that it's not a catch. But to your point of
if you're calling it a catch, and then you need
to have definitive proof to overturn it.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
Yep, it's a hard one.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
I mean again, if you showed you know, sometimes I
think our replay for just call ite r NFL whatever.
You should just take somebody who doesn't watch football.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
At all effort.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
I love that idea.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
Yeah, you show him the video once, maybe twice, let's
go twice. It's good.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Tony had the same idea.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Are you and Tony coming together and having conversations about
this we.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
Have our own podcast.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah, okay, okay, Tony had the same exact idea.

Speaker 4 (20:57):
Yeah, that's funny. I did not know that, but yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
And then they get to say, oh, yeah, I think
you caught it, or that's probably not catch go with it.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know. It's hard.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
Again, not usually one to pile on the rest too much.
Most of us probably would say that was an incomplete
you know, not an interception, but it is hard to
overturn the moment.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
So yeah, and then the face mask at the end
of the game, kingsand oh yeah, oh you call a
face mask on the course. I love how one fad.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Actually, after the interception, you know, people are going nuts
on x and replying saying how the NFL is rigged.
And yeah, I actually replied to the guy because he
responded to me, and I said, if the NFL was rigged,
I don't think they'd be rigging the two and seven
Jacksonville Jaguarts to try to defeat the Minnesota Vikings, who

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are uh, you know what six and two at the time.

Speaker 4 (21:59):
That'd be a weird one. That'd be a weird one.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
That would be weird. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
Yeah, So it's this is just a very hard Reffing
is a very hard job, and when you're doing at
the highest level, it's even harder. So it is you
got millions of people watching would think they know better.
It's a perfect recipe for disaster.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Yeah, it really was.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
I don't know. I thought it was fine.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
I mean, it's just bad luck, right what I thought
when I was if I was a quarterback, my face
mask would be like so large, like I'm sure it's illegal,
but I would have like my face mask would judge
out like a foot from my face and then it'd
just be like like a huge just cage. So if
anyone got near me, they would be it would be
inevitable that their hand would touch my face mask and.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
Bea come on.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
If I was a quarterback, I'd try to take the
defender's arm and put it on my face mask as
I was getting sacked. Yeah, but anyway, one of my
highlights of the game was Van Ginkle's sack and he
didn't celebrate because he was disappointed that he didn't strip sack.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Mac Jones.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
Was surprised he didn't.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yeah, he tried to, he tried, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
He missed right, and then he was disappointed. Even though
he sacked him for an eight yard loss. And then
you know, you could see us and when most offenders
would have been high stepping into the end zone just
celebrating a sack.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
He was disappointed that he didn't strip sack him. I
thought that was cool.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
No, I mean that's you got. Like I said, the
guys that we signed, all our kind of a plus guys.
I mean, if Brian Flores leaves again after this year,
it's going to be a sad, sad day. Even though
I know it's a lot of the guys, but that
crew that they have running right now is pretty fabulous crew, right, and.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
They are allowed stinkers like they lost to Ben Johnson,
got torked by him, got talked by Sean McVay.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
It happens, right, I mean, I don't.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
Know, but offense is to play defense in this league.
I mean that's just the nature of it, you know,
the way that the flags are all for the most
part written it benefits the offense more than a rose
the defense. The penalties, I mean, I should say, right,
most of the penalties favor the offense over the defense.
Defensive holding, it happens all like, how are you supposed
to play defense without touching the guy?

Speaker 4 (24:13):
But then if you touch the guys holding?

Speaker 3 (24:15):
But then and then it's just and you can't hit
guys across the middle, and then you know, yeah, it
just everything puts the defense at a disadvantage for the
most part.

Speaker 4 (24:23):
The only exception, I guess it'd be like offensive holding.
You know.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
Sometimes that's about all that they really have going for him,
you know, face mask and horse coll and all these
different you know, head hits.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
You know, the offensive guy.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
Right, if you're a running back, you're running the ball
and you go through the hole, you can go like this,
you know, you can and plow in there. But if
a defender does the same thing, it's a flag on you.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
It's like, why I.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Gotta be careful, not if you're the running back, because
now they're issuing fines for using your.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Helmet true without flag. Yeah right, yeah, it's not a flag, right,
But yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
I'll find you after the fact of you know, five
to eleven grand if you do something like that. But yeah,
point is it's difficult to play defense. So if they're
throwing flags on you, and you know the offenses are rolling,
it's you're not. It's it's difficult, right, But what matters
is you have a good enough defense and we do
to make a playoff run. Now we we'll just see
if the offense can you know, keep stride with our

(25:18):
defense right now. If you looked at our schedule for November,
the rest of the way in December here.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Well you know, no, I know, they got the Titans next,
they got the Bears that.

Speaker 4 (25:28):
Just lost the three to the Patriots.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
So they'll have a different head coach by that point.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
So yeah, you can almost guarantee that they'll probably have
a different head coach and might look completely different than
they look now. And every time you fire a head
coach and the new one comes in, there's always like
a week or two where they're more fired up.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Look at the Saints. They're right.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
It happened with the Saints today. You know, they fire
Dennis aund they come out be the Atlanta Falcons.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Man.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Then they got the Arizona Cardinals, who aren't a joke
the Alanta Falcons and your home.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
For that and you're home for that, right. Yeah, So
Falcons lost of the Saints, who just lost to the Panthers.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
So it's not like right, it's not like they're a powerhouse. No,
so smart games.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
I get four and one.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Yeah, it's interesting because you just meet the Jaguars twelve
to seven.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
So Titans win, Bears win, Cardle, Falcons win, I Meanwks win,
lots of.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
We have one formidable game for Adam here. We have
one formidable game that's at Detroit and we eighteen. All
the rest are easy, they're favorable. At this point, I
did laugh. So I have Fox on in the background
on YouTube and they're going through They're just they're recapping
all the afternoon games, right, They're just talking about each
game quick and showing the highlights on them, like the

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post game locker room stuff.

Speaker 4 (26:56):
Yeah, they showed the Vikings one.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
They're all in there, they're you know, all in the
middle hands in the air. Guess who has a football
in his arms?

Speaker 1 (27:05):
John Parker, like Parker Romo, John Parker, I mean, my
eyes are going to be glued to the Minnesota Vikings video,
you know, their team when they share uh in on
that video of chemical Kyle speech in the locker room.
I can't wait for that because we all know who
it's going to be about.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
Yeah, I don't know. I mean Ben Ginkel cash Man.
There's a lot of defenders that could give a lot
of defenders. I could see him give him one to
Cam Robinson again, even though he gave him last week
to just his rival them Phillips. Yeah, Murphy, Yeah, because yeah,
he usually does give him to all the turnover guys.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Pretty young. But so John Parker Romo.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
It is amazing that, you know, a professional team can
be I don't know if motivated is the right word,
but like he does a phenomenal job motivating a bunch
of millionaire moodo men to be one, you know, a
solid unit. Yeah, just it is something that is hard
to do, you know, to keep them synergized and everything

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like that, and it's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Thank you as always for your intel, your takes, and
you're an offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator, head coach.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
You do it all and you bring it all to
the table for the spot. So I appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (28:25):
Thank you, friend,