CLASSICS (Bonus Episode): 12 Feet Away From A Sasquatch!

CLASSICS (Bonus Episode): 12 Feet Away From A Sasquatch!

September 13, 2024 • 42 min

Episode Description

Originally released in May of 2021, this episode features a witness who had a very close encounter with a sasquatch! The discussion includes a detailed description of the event, the onsite investigation that Cliff conducted, and the evidence that was collected at the scene. It's a classic!

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Episode Transcript

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
S and.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Greatest con Yesterday listening watching Limb always.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Keep it Squatching And now you're hosts Cliff Berrickman and
James Bubo Fay. All right, well do you want to
just jump into the topic of the day.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
Yeah, when do you got lined up?

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Oh, you are going to be stoked. So so check
this out. Basically, we have a witness on board today
and he saw a sasquatch in Scamania County on April fourteenth,
if I remember correctly the way it came to us,
it was at the North American Bigfoot Center, of course.
And this gentleman's father is a witness of a sasquatch,

(00:57):
you know, back in the day. We can ask this
guy about this. But we got a call from the
witness's father saying, hey, my kid saw a sasquatch like
yesterday basically, and we're going, oh my gosh. Really and
then and Connor neglected to get the contact informations. I'm like, oh, man,
you know, but we knew the guy didn't have his
phone number or anything like that, and he said that

(01:17):
I'm going to see if I can get my son
to come into the shop, but he's pretty shaken up.
And then you know, a week and a half goes by,
and then the guy comes in with the son, and
that's when I met Jeremy, who is our guest today.
And this is one of the best sighting reports and
also the most recent sighting report I have from the
local area. This is April fourteenth, twenty twenty one. So

(01:37):
this is one of the best, clearest and closest and
most horrifying sighting reports that I've gotten in a long
long time. So I thought he'd be a fantastic guest.
And of course since then, Connor and I have gone
out and done an on side investigation which yielded some
very cool results as well. And I guess we'll get
into that as the story progresses.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
You know, the horrifying stories.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
I know you, I know you are Bob. When I
when when this happened, I say, we got to get
hin this guy on the radio. Man. So anyway, Bobo,
meet Jeremy, great witness, Jeremy, Meet Bobo, and welcome to
Bigfoot and Beyond. Hey Jeremy, Hey, guys, what's going on
this podcasting? Hey? Yeah, so you just heard the introduction there.

(02:20):
Did I get everything right? The data is lokate data
is right and all that other stuff. Yeah, you got
everything right with that.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
It's uh, yeah, it's been very interesting since the date,
but yeah, you got the date right, and it was
I've gotten better at being able to talk about it now.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yeah, you were a little shaken up when you came
in the store, I will say, because you were telling
us the story and you were covered with goosebumps and
that's not something that is hoaxable. You can't fake that stuff.
And when I brought you in the back room to
take a look at Murphy, our life size, very realistic assquatch,
you know. And I remember I was looking at Murphy
and saying, yeah, so Jeremy, tell me what's the same,
But what's it? And I look back at you and

(02:57):
your eyes were welling up. I mean you literally came
to tears. I mean they weren't streaming down your face
and you weren't bawling, but you're a six foot three
former security guard and your eyes were welling up in
front of other customers and everything. The emotion was clear,
and you're the kind of witness I talked to Connor
about this later. It's like, how could any skeptic look

(03:18):
at this guy and say that he's lying. It's just ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
You're I didn't know the name of it, but Murphy,
I remember you telling me when you come back, you
don't scream.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
That's what she said.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
I'm just gonna say that's one of the things when
you get told something like that, your reaction you're kind
of like, what are you? And then when I walked
back there, it was basically like PTSD.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Yeah it's PTSD. Yeah, you're not alone in that. A
lot of witnesses have that or walk away with that.
And of course when you came around the corner and
looked at Murphy there, you were about the same distance
away from Murphy as you were from the real Sasquatch
you saw just a week and a half before.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, which was very jarring to say the least, to
walk around and have that happened.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yeah, yeah, I bet. Now before we get into the sighting, Jeremy,
before this happened, was Bigfoot on your radar at all? Like,
did you think these things were real? Or like, what
was bigfoot to you if it.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Really got into a Bigfoot to me was it's something
my dad, my dad. I knew about experiences that my
dad had had those sightings and whatnot, and you know,
growing up around that, you're like, okay, well I believe
in it because you want to believe in you know,
you're around it, you kind of want to believe in.
But that was aside from that. It was more of

(04:40):
something like, oh, it's a horror monster. I'm gonna watch
it on TV, you know, and movies and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
It wasn't something that I was. It was something that
I never thought that I would be involved in. Yeah,
now before now, tell us about your dad's sighting, because
that's how I met your dad at first. He came
into the shop and he shared his account and we
documented it and right down and say everything. So tell
us about your dad's sidings, just so we know the
context of Bigfoot in your life as you were growing up.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
I suppose my dad's first sight or we're not signing
my dad's first experience with it. He was in his
late teens early twenties, if I remember the timing correctly,
and he was my grandfather drove him up. I forget
which mountain range it was, but drove him up and
dropped him off to go hiking. I forget how far back,

(05:28):
but he's he's backpacking up with like the old school
snowshoes on. These are the ones with the raw hide
and everything. And he's got his He's got a Brittany
Spaniel hiking partner. That was his dog, and her name
was Freckles. He was up up in the mountain. He
finds this enormous handprint in a snow bank, and the

(05:49):
hand if you look at it, it looks it's just huge.
And he had a polaroid camera with him. He took
a photo of it.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Well.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
At the same time that he found his handprint, his dog,
who was just a really really friendly dog, started snarling
and was ready to basically attack whatever it was that
was in the area. And he said he felt his
blood run cold, and everything in his body was telling

(06:19):
him he needs to get off the mountain now. Being
little and hearing that kind of story because I grew
up seeing the picture and stuff, because I'd always talked
to him. I always loved to hear my dad's hunting stories.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
And things like that.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
That was you know something that you it just it
kind of. It does form a belief system with you
when you're when you're young, and so you want to
you want to believe in stuff that your your parents
believe it or whatnot.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
Yeah, And just as a side note, your father was
kind enough to donate the polaroid camera as well as
the original polaroids to the North American Bigfoot Center, so
you can actually see this handprint on display in the
North American Bigfoot Center. Would that a number of years
go by?

Speaker 2 (06:59):
I think I was, I was in the picture, then
it was I was probably I don't know, I was
pretty pretty young. I remember my dad coming back from
a hunting trip and talking about an actual sighting that
he had had. And he had thought at first, in
the distance, he had thought that it was, you know,
my uncle screwing with him. But he watched this image

(07:21):
from a distance walking very oddly. But then he realized
this thing was a much bigger than my uncle and
had a much larger stride, and when it had walked
out of his line of sight, a deer just got
up and walked right along behind it. And everything that's
not going to happen when you're if you're a hunter

(07:42):
and stuff like that. And I remember him talking about
that and talking about its movement and everything.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
And I think it was down in a clear cut
from a good distance too, remember that correctly. Yeah, yeah,
so they're watching it from a ridge side of it
in a large valley, so they had some you know,
they had some time to look at this thing, I
guess as it was poking around. So well, yeah, so
you grew up in a big footy sort of household,
which is kind of cool, an advantage I think over
a lot of other people are who are brought up

(08:08):
to think that these scenes are not real. But you
kind of started off that way, started on the right foot,
you know. But yeah, but then fast forward until this
past April and set us up for that. And I
guess a good thing to start out with is that
you are new to the area. You just moved out here,
maybe about a month and a half or two months ago,
So welcome to Washington by the way. Yeah, an eight
foot Harry welcome committee came and got you. But yeah,

(08:32):
so you're new to the area. I think you're staying
with your brother, and aren't you staying in the r
V in the backyard until.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
You till you get a rental available. And so it's like,
I'm new to this area.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
I loaned.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
The last thing you want to do when you're new
to an area is be the guy who talks about
something that it's a small town.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Yeah, yeah, we're not going to identify the town because
there's things going on. But basically, since Camania County, Washington,
which is of course famous worldwide for having a law
on the books about killing a sasquatch, you know, against
killing a sasquatch. So yeah, you live in rural Skamania County,
you work at a local business, and you get off
work late at night, around what twelve or twelve thirty. Yeah,

(09:16):
typically by tom I'm out of there. We're looking at
about like like about that around that time. Okay, well,
then start from there, I guess, because yeah, start from there,
so we know what we can say and what we
can't say. Well, I usually when I get.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Off work, we have a couple, I have a couple
of co workers, and that a lot of times they'll
last for a ride home, and everything's pretty close in
that area, and I'm just I'm, you know, trying to
be nice. So I give this one guy a ride
home on a pretty regular basis and.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
Go take him home. And then I found on my
route home, I found this one.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Area where I see deer all the time, and I
got to the point where it's like, Wow, these deer
are not afraid of anybody, and they're just really cool.
So it's kind of like a nice little little jaunt
for me. At the end of the night, it's like,
I'm gonna go buy I'm let's see, I'm gonna see
the deer on.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
This other night.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Same individual says, Hey, you know, can you give me
ride home? I'm like, sure, you know, so go do
the round, give him a ride home, and I'm I'm
coming down. And this time I'm like, you know what
I'm gonna I'm gonna make sure I go down. I'm
gonna go the route to go see the deer.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
Now you'd already dropped them off at this point, haven't you.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
I'd already dropped them off at this point. And I've
actually gone a couple I've gone a couple days without
actually driving the route that I usually go to see
the deer. So I was like, Okay, I'm gonna go
this route and I'm driving down and I get to
this area where there's a corner. Now, the thing about
this is that these deer are coming into town like

(10:44):
it's rural. Yes, there's forest all around it, but this is,
you know, a neighborhood as much as there is a
neighborhood out in this area. So you're not thinking, you know,
oh I'm you know, you're thinking, oh'm, let's see the deer.
You're not thinking, oh, I'm gonna see something very large.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
You know.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
You're not thinking, oh, I'm gonna see something that's gonna
make me jump or be afraid or anything like that.
You're just you know, going about your business.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Yeah, you're anticipating deer. You're expecting to see a deer exactly.
And the other thing is is that there's nobody else
out at this time and night. Like I don't know
how to explain culture shock in a sense for me,
because like when I came out to this area, I'm
used to living in places like Tacoma or Seattle where
it's like kind of like the city doesn't sleep, and
you're out in this area where it's kind of like

(11:30):
the twilight zone where at least for someone like me,
where everybody's there's nobody out other than us who work
this late shift in this in this area. And so
that being said, I'm I'm pulling. I'm pulling around this corner.
And first off, there was no deer. What happened was

(11:52):
I go around the corner that I usually have no
issue with and something very large runs in front of me.
I almost hit it. And I'm have so many different
emotions going on when this happens, because I'm angry, because
my first thing, my first thought in my head is

(12:13):
what's going on? Is that you know, oh is it
some tweakers just ran across in front of me. I
almost hit him, and.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
My hand instantly slid off my wheel to my horn. Now,
the thing that has to be explained here is my
car that I drive. I drive, you know, it has
some body damage in the front, and the body damage
causes my headlight to aim out at an angle and upwards.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Yeah. Yeah. One of when I saw your car in person,
and I think it was your right headlight was normal
and your left one was kind of cock eyed, yeah,
and just kind of pointing upwards. Yeah. So this is
painting the picture for you, guys.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
I'm now at an angle looking at the corner where
I usually see a deer, and I had seen I'd
sent you a picture where where I usually see the
deer at on this little kind of like embankment there
at the at the top. What I'm looking at. My
head starts trying to explain and trying to tell me

(13:12):
what I'm seeing. And my first reaction is, I'm looking
at a stump, even though I know there's not a
stump there in this corner.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Yeah, Now, just just to be clear, to kind of
paint the picture, You're driving down the road, you hang
a left down this other road, and that this is
the corner area where the deer are hanging out. Something
runs in front of your car from your right to
your left. Now you you turn a little bit and
your your car stopped at this point and in front
of your hood is a stump or so you think.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yes, Then as my like, as I'm like focusing on realizing,
and my my head's telling me, okay, you know I've
gone this route a ton of times before, there's no
stump here. And then I started to focus and I'm
realizing what I'm looking at is a lot of there's.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
A lot of hair. And then it starts to stand upright.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
At this point, my mind everything is trying to you know,
you're trying to put this into perspective. You're trying to
come up and tell yourself what it is that you're
looking at. You're trying to make, you know, sense of things.
Your brain's trying to connect it to Oh it's this,
Oh it's this, Oh it's this. I'm so close to

(14:25):
this thing that we're looking at. I think what when
we did, when we did the distance we walked, I
think we were thinking it was about roughly like twelve feet.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
It was twelve feet. As nerves we can figure twelve
feet because I think it was just a few feet
in front of your hood, and of course you were
sitting in the car, so we measured it at twelve
feet in the headlights. Yes, yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
When the thing stands up, the you know, one of
the things you try, you're trying to register in your head.
So you go, you kind of hop over and you think, oh,
gilly suit something like that, and very quickly that is
squashed for me because it turns around. To say that
my life flashed before my eyes when this happens, and
just everything else is an understatement. But I also am

(15:09):
a person who like of doing security and doing those things.
One thing about me is that I have a very
really I have a very very good memory for what
I see, and everything slows down to like a hope
for me. And that was the same thing in this instance.
Everything slowed down and I'm sitting there looking and realizing

(15:29):
I'm looking at I'm looking at Sasquatch like I'm looking
at Bigfoot.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
This thing it's massive. Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and
beyond with Cliff and Bogo will be right back after
these messages. Well, describe it to us in depth and
maybe start at the top of the head and work
your way down as best to your recollection.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
So the fur, for one, like I always thought dark
for and stuff like that, And what I was looking
at the hair was basically what I explained to you
when I went in to the center, was that it
multiple shades, like shades of earth tones like browns and stuff.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
It was.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
It was all browns, but multiple shades to point that
it was almost like a camouflage like it you would
I could see, because I mean it was enough that
when my eyes first saw the back of it, it
tried to register it as a stump, you know, you're
trying to think of and and but this thing had
it looked like some of the hair was like, you know,
bleached from the sun and things like that. But the head,

(16:32):
it was not a lot of times you see drawings
and you see these this coned head or the pointed head,
it wasn't so much like that. The head was and
the head wasn't as large as I would have expected
for the rest of the body.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
The head was was.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Was a bit smaller, definitely humanoid in a in appearance,
very pronounced browridge area. And one of the things I
did notice, and I told you about it was the
skin tone and the skin tone underneath the hair on
the facials, and everything looked very similar to what we
came up when we talked about it was in like

(17:09):
you know, older chimps and stuff like that with Vidalago.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
Yeah, And for those people who aren't familiar with that,
we've all seen pictures of very old chimpanzees that have
a light sort of skin color that's very very heavily
mottled by a various various splotches and marks and you know,
like liver marks and white patches. That's what he described
the skin as very, very lighter, and we mentioned videligo,

(17:33):
which is that disease of course Michael Jackson has that
removes the pigment from skin and the hair that grows
out of it. Yeah, so that's what he's mentioning here.
So that kind of older chimpanzee light colored modeled skin,
which by the way, is exactly the skin tone that
a good friend of mine described in the Sasquatch that
he observed down the White River a number of years ago.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
The one thing I told you also was about it
was that the the jaw line and everything it like.
The upper part of the head, like I said, was
very human, more more human like than I would have
said a but the jawline, that was where it looked more.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
It looked more apish.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
When this thing turns and looks at me, you're looking
at like one of the things the first things I
noticed is its eyes and the color of the eyes like,
and that I explained to you also was that it's
different shades of like a reddish amber. It's looking at
me and it does this mot It kind of slouches

(18:38):
down and then does this kind of like motion with
its arms and then brings it swings its arms from
the inside of its chest out to the outside of
it of its body, and it I don't know how
to explain the sound other than saying it was like
a bark or a howl. The only thing closest I've
ever heard of anything like this is like a color monkey.

(19:00):
If you listen to a holler monkey in the morning,
their morning calls. It was like that, only deeper and louder,
and the end of it was like this higher, like
a higher pitched tone to it, and I can't even
I can't emulate it for the life of me. Right
after it did that, it took two breasts while it

(19:21):
was looking at me, and then it motioned with its
left arm and swung it out and was pointing, not pointing,
but so it's hands were kind of curled. And this
is where it's harder to explain and voiceover versus visual.
But it swung its left arm out and was direct

(19:46):
looked like it was basically directing down the street, and
it was holding its arm there now from where I'm
part just to give you a perspective of how long
this arm is. Its arm was to the center of
my hood, and it's hand were kind of not clenched
in the fists, but everything. This is what adds to

(20:06):
the fear factor here, was that you're looking at something
and in your head it's telling you animal, but you're
looking at its eyes, You're looking at it. Just the
fact that it just made a gesture. It's communicating.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Knowing that something that large is able to look at
you and effectively direct me to leave.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Right when that happened, I put my foot on the
gas and I took off, and as soon as I
got around it, I called my dad instantly, and that
was roughly how we got the point of time, which
was roughly one fourteen am in the morning. I just
instantly was crying like I couldn't. I had so many

(20:59):
mixed mode about what was going on, because, like you know,
it's one thing to say you believe in something, it's
another to show that it's completely true. It changes It
changes your It changes your damn life. My dad basically
does his best to try to call me down, even
though he couldn't over the phone up until the point
that my brother. My brother shows up and he gives

(21:21):
off work. He's he's my lead, so he's usually there.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
A little bit later at our job, and where does
he find you?

Speaker 2 (21:27):
He finds me outside of my car because I woke
got out and I start walking over to him and
I'm knocking on his window. And his first thing that
he he thinks, my brother says when he sees me,
is he thinks that I just witnessed something horrible, like
our coworker kill himself or something in front of me.
Because he's never seen me. This shook up. And then

(21:48):
when I explain what I saw to him, my brother
has the same reaction that my dad does. And then
he's like, you got to get in the car. You
got to get in the car in the truck. Now
I'm terrified. The last thing I want to do is
go back to this location. But brothers have a way
of being able to talk each other into doing things.
And we went back and retrace the steps and everything

(22:09):
to try to see if we could see if.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Anything was around. Nothing was other than a lingering smell. Now,
what did it smell like?

Speaker 2 (22:19):
When you would first smell it, you would you would initially,
if you're not knowing what you're looking for, you would
think skunk.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
But it's like a.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Skunk has a has a tendency to if if you
smell skunk, it means that they sprayed and it's going
to stay in one location. It doesn't move, and it burns.
It burns your nostrils. This doesn't burn your nostrils. It's
a lighter skunk smell, but there's this underlying hint of
like kind of rot or decaying.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
It's a very unique.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Smell, and it doesn't it's not and I'm not saying
that it doesn't get strong when you're near it, because
when we were over there, it was super strong.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Now, of course that smell will come back going to
play in a little while here. But I think, Bobbo,
you had a couple of questions, didn't you.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
Yeah, So when I was crossing the road, you said, like,
what was it about? The arm went halfway across.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Your hood when it was directing out from the from
where I was at an angle looking at it. When
it outstretched its arm from where it was standing, if
you were to like look where it's hand was, its
hand would have been lengthwise across the hood of my car,

(23:29):
like not not. It wasn't actually across the of my car,
but it was where I have on my hood.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
Of my car.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
I have a in the center of it. I have
at the Septicon logo, and its hand would have been
out out in front of it, but directly centered to
that that logo.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
Yeah, it's a little confusing, and you know I did
have the advantage of meeting you face to face, and
not only in the shop but at the location. Let
me just clarify or add my two cents for the
hand move because I got to see you do it,
and what we're talking about it's really hard to put
into our listeners' heads. I think first of all, when

(24:09):
it was standing there and it was turned around and
looked at you, you said that it did a hand
motion and then and then basically yelled at you or
made some vocalization yes, yes, now mind you. He was
standing to the left side of his car and that's
the cock eyed headlight right.

Speaker 4 (24:23):
And then how did it compare to Murphy and Saves?

Speaker 3 (24:26):
When I saw Murphy?

Speaker 2 (24:28):
The first thing when I want to told Cliff, I
go everything proportion wise, the arm, the when I was
explaining the thickness of the arms and everything, every it
was that it was that except for the face, the head,
the head on Murphy. Uh, it was too large in
comparison to what what I saw a more humanoid face

(24:51):
versus ape or human like face. More and more or
I guess would be I'd say closer to more like
an Neanderthal looking face. Murphy in size, it was taller
than Murphy.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
But that was like.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Seeing that it was shocking because everything I was explaining
and then I walked back there and I see it.
It was like it was standing in front of me again.
Whoever you has had to do the sculpt and everything
on that thing, they knew what they were doing.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
Yeah, we got a bigfooter to do it. Got him
a bow Bruns at Unit seventy Studios had in Columbus, Ohio,
fantastic artist.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
The muscle that like, because one of the things I
was explaining was just like you could see. The thing
that got me was how massive this thing is and
seeing the muscle and you could see the muscle through
the hair like it wasn't like it's you know, you
get the people you talk about like it's like it
wear in a fur suit or anything. Though you could
see how dense the muscle was.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
On this thing. Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond
with Cliff and Bogo Will be right back after these messages.
So how has this changed your.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Life since Initially when I went in to talk to you,
I still was very was hesitant in heart and like
trying to figure out what I was going to do.
I wanted to help. I wanted to talk with you guys.
I wanted to be able to show you guys where
it everything went on and whatnot. But having a brother
who's an enthusiast, and having a father that's a very

(26:28):
that's an enthusiast, uh.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
And witness that I wild have to say, there was
quite a bit of peer pressure. But I it's now
a routine. We have a routine that.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
My brother and I do when we get off work
because we happen to be in an area where it's
a hot zone. I want to be able to prove
its existence. I want to be able to find out.
I want to be able to show the world that
this thing exists and hopefully, if any thing, be able
to protect its environment.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
And to those ends, what are you doing every night
when we get off work.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
We have rounds that we go and we've actually gone
in places that there's a couple of times because the
areas we've gone up to We're like, we don't have
enough equipment for this right now for us to be safe,
for us to be doing, so we have to go back.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
But we we're wondering.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
We have all these different ideas and different things, you know,
trying to we're trying to figure out.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
But we go.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
We go out and look for it and try to
find areas where potentially we think Bigfoot is out there.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
Well, now I had the opportunity to go out to
the site, Connor and I went made a trip out
there with you with the witness, to the exact location
where this happened, and it really helped put together a
lot of the things that I was hearing, you know,
because it's never the same and I Bubo can attest
to this, it's never the same hearing a story as
opposed to going to a place and hearing the story
there where you can point to it came from there.

(27:54):
This is where the crouch down, this is where the
der are, that whole thing, and it really opened up
the story to me dramatically. So when we were at
the site, first of all, it wasn't just a ninety
degree turn to the left. It was more than a
ninety degree turn. I mean it was. You know, it
was like about a nine one hundred degree turn or
something like that, so it's more than just a left

(28:15):
hand turn into this location, so you wouldn't have been
watching necessarily down the road. And where the thing ran
from was basically a patch of brush in the sky's
lawn and the neighbor's lawn across the street over to
the ditch area. The thing ran in front of Jeremy's car,
and then remember he thought he saw a stump. Well,

(28:39):
the thing was actually crouching down in a small drainage
ditch on the side of the road, underneath this small
hill that led up to the property there where these
deer often hangout. And there was a sign there that
was about four or four and a half feet tall,
and Jeremy never noticed the sign because the thing crouching
down was taller than the sign itself. We put Connor

(29:01):
in the same location, and you know, Connor's taller than Iami's,
like six feet tall. So he raised his hands up
and Jeremy placed this thing in about eight feet tall.
Connor was standing inside a ditch at the time, so
that it might have been eight and a half, might
have been eight, might have been somewhere around there. Remember,
Jeremy was sitting down at the time, although he did
get a good look at it, but he was obviously frightened,
so that tends to exaggerate sizes a bit. Now. I

(29:23):
also got to observe Jeremy making the same hand motions
that the creature made as well, and I want to
describe that real fast before it vocalized, or I guess
while it vocalized. You know how Superman kind of grabs
the middle of his shirt and pulls it apart, revealing
the s kind of it was kind of like that,

(29:43):
but the hands actually crossed each other and it was
lowered in the abdomen area and then kind of pulled
open and vocalized at the same time. So it was
kind of a dramatic way to see something like that vocalize,
and I'd like to It made me think I need
to collect more data on people who have observed sasquatch
vocalizing to see if they had any hand motions associated

(30:05):
with it. They with both hands did that, yeah, with
both hands, but in this case it didn't, you know,
like Superman hands would like meet in the middle and
then pull it apart. This thing it crossed it like
maybe they imagine crossing the arms at the wrist and
then pulling backwards like that. Yeah, it was also lower.
He directed that the hands cross in the abdomen area,

(30:28):
not the chest like Superman. So that's the difference there,
and that's when the thing vocalized. And then finally that
other hand motion I found so interesting was when, you know,
after it yelled at you and you're just, you know,
sitting there in your own waist probably at this point,
you know, who knows, You're just sitting there observing the sasquatch,
And after it yelled at you, all it basically did

(30:50):
was it lifted its left arm outwards, kind of almost
like it was kind of pointing down the road. And
maybe it was, but it didn't point with his fingers.
Said that the fingers were just kind of hanging loosely.
And you comment about the hair draping down from underneath
the forearm about six inches long. But one of the
things you said to me that and again, you're not

(31:11):
a big footer. I mean, your dad was a witness,
but you're not a bigfootter proper, you know, so you
don't know anything about the hand structures. What I'm assuming,
and what you told me was so compelling because you
said that the fingers were hanging kind of loosely, and
the thumb was hanging down loosely next to it in
a weird position, kind of straight down. Because when I imitated,
I said, yeah, you see how your thumb goes forward.

(31:33):
Its thumb didn't go forward. It was draping straight down
like the other fingers, which is exactly what we know
about Sasquatch hand morphology based on the Sasquatch hand prints.
It was a very very compelling moment for me. It's like,
this guy doesn't know that this guy's telling the truth absolutely.
I mean, let alone the goosebumps and the tears and
everything else that I saw that day when you shared

(31:53):
your story with me, those small details are just fascinating
for me. People like us actually to listen to. When
we were at the investigation site checking around and whatever else,
there were one of the neighbors had a bunch of
yippie dogs, you know, like by barking at us because
there's people walking around in the street and this is
a rural area, so not a lot of people are

(32:13):
around there. And you know, I said, Goid you know what,
I'm going to go talk to this guy just number
one to apologize about us being here and the dogs
and maybe I can learn something, you know. So I
went up and the guy was in his yard and
kind of like kind of looking like, what are these
guys doing? And you know, I would do the same thing.
I live in the rural area. I would be doing
exactly what he was doing. So I went up to
him and said, hey, hey, my name's Cliff, and uh yeah,

(32:34):
sorry about your dogs, dude, and I'm sorry that they're
yipping and the app and and stuff like that. I
apologize and he goes, oh, yeah, no big deal, nobody. Yeah,
And I kind of pointed over to Jeremy, who was
talking to Connor at the time, and I said, yeah,
a gentleman over there reported seeing a sasquatch across the
road here recently. And the guy laughed at me, of course,
like oh my god, you know that sort of thing,

(32:57):
oh bigfoot, this nonsense, and I and I'm you know,
I'm used to that, so I go, yeah, yeah, I know,
I know, but that's what he says. And he seems
to be very very believable, and I'm thinking he probably
did see something. Have you been hearing anything at night
that that might be unusual? And he goes, now, no, No,
I haven't been hearing anything at night now except for
my you know, my neighbor yelling sometimes. And went like,

(33:18):
what do you mean? So, yeah, my neighbor across the street,
and he pointed to the place where the sasquatch was
and there's a house behind the house in the corner,
you know, another you know, one hundred yards back or something.
He goes, yeah, that guy goes out sometimes and yells
on his in his lawn in the middle of the night.
And really, what is that about? He goes, I don't know,
I don't know. He just I said, you've seen him
do it. You've heard him and seen him do it.

(33:39):
And he goes, oh, I hear him quite often or occasionally,
but I've only seen him do it once. You know.
I heard the yell and I looked out and he
was on the lawn. Oh that's odd, huh, And I said,
and the guy laughs or whatever. He goes, yeah, I'm
a big foot preparent. And he asked me when did
this happen? When did the road siding happen? And I said, oh,
you know, about a week and a half ago, and

(34:01):
he goes, oh, yeah, no, no. Then he kind of
trails off and his face changes a bit, and I think, ooh,
I think we got something. So I said, I think
you want to tell me something, don't you? And he goes, well,
what day wasn't I said it was the fourteenth of April.
He goes, that was Thursday. You know, yeah, that was
around the time that my wife and I were smelling

(34:23):
that smell. I went, really, what do you tell me more? Basically,
his wife likes to sleep with the window cracked, you know,
get some air moving in there, and around that time,
he said there was a really bad smell that kept
popping around and to describe it for me, and his
description was it's kind of like a skunk, but combine

(34:44):
that with burnt coffee grounds, and that was kind of
what it was. It wasn't pleasant, but that's what I
kept smelling. Like, oh really, And so that's exactly or
pretty much what he described. Then, pointing over to Jeremy
the witness, Yeah, he described that same sort of smell,
and then the guy goes, do you think that could
have been the same thing as well? That's what he described,
and so obviously that guy's cage got a little rattled

(35:05):
at that point. You know, it's like, oh my gosh.
And then he said this, I wonder if that is
my neighbor yelling, because behind that house, whoever War's neighbor lives,
he says, that's where the elk. Always, the deer always
are hanging around in this guy's lawn. But the elk
are bedding down behind these houses, in the thicker areas,
like next to the river area, like the creek that

(35:26):
flows through there. Right, that's what he said at least,
So stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff
and Bogo will be right back after these messages. Anyway,
very interesting stuff occurred at the site. Oh and I
didn't even mention this. As Connor and Jeremy are speaking,

(35:50):
I'm walking around looking at the embankment that goes up
from the road. You know, there's the road that there's
a little drainage ditch, and there's an embankment. I'm walking
a few hundred yards in every direction, not trespassing, by
the way. I'm always staying on property, you know, the
road and whatever else. And at one point I see
in the ground a possible footprint, you know, and I go,
what is this? And I get up close to it,

(36:10):
and it was on about a forty five degree slope,
I suppose, and it was kind of going across that
forty five degrees, so not directly up, but kind of
across that forty five degrees. And there was an impression
where I saw four clearly visible toes a plant or
surface area, you know, like the front part of a foot.
And then there was a raised amount of dirt right

(36:33):
behind that area, and I go, oh, my god, that's
the mid tarsal break. That's the plant's surface of underneath
the metatarsals. And here are four of the five toes
visible in the ground. It appeared to be a right
hand or a right foot going up the slope. And
I looked further and there are some flat mars. I
looked behind it. I didn't find anything, but it would
have been cemented that point, and so we cast it. Basically,

(36:54):
we cast a footprint. This footprint was headed towards the
house where Jeremy saw this thing, you know, in the
on the embankment right below the lawn area next to
the road. It was headed towards that direction, but that's
not where Jeremy said it ran, which tells me that
this thing is probably going back there for the deer

(37:15):
more often than at least that one night. In fact,
it might just be on the regular you know, the circuit,
shall we say, where this thing pops by, comes out
of the creek in that area and pops by to
see if anything's going on. I've since cleaned off the cast.
It's very good. It's it's you know, it's not like
a Hereford cast or something that's crystal clear, but for
a tracker and someone who's really interested in footprint impressions,

(37:37):
it's very informative and very cool. So we got some
really interesting evidence out of this spot. His story checks
out exactly the way he told it, and this is
an area that it deserves further attention. And luckily Jeremy
and his brother are driving around at night checking this
area out after work at least a couple times a week.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
We're working on that. That is all stuff that we're
working on trying to get. My dad just ordered ordered
a night vision camera so we can get out there
and get collect some actually better material for you guys
to help work with you guys, on trying to locate
this thing.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
But you know, I imagine if you just had one
hundred dollars dash cam. Can you imagine the footage you
would have? It would be astounding. I actually am getting
a dash cam. Yeah, dashcams are a must have, and
again for all bigfooters out there, all bigfooters should have
a dash cam. Almost half of sightings happen on roads
very similar to what Jeremy encountered, And any one of

(38:35):
you if you a sasquatch ran in front of the car,
you would have sasquatch footage just for having one hundred
dollars gadget and you know, pointing forward in your vehicle.
It's such an easy, low hanging fruit to obtain, you know. So, Jeremy,
I love that you're going around at night after work because,
as you noted, nobody's really out in this area after
like ten o'clock. The roads are pretty vacant, right, and

(38:55):
you are in a prime position getting off so late.
Driving through these rural areas is to see that sasquatch
or perhaps another one any night. It could happen at
any time. So you are in a great location, and
I so appreciate you being communication with me because we
need I need an army of people just like you
in fruitful areas driving the roads. And it's going to

(39:18):
happen again at some point to somebody. So hopefully it's
you with a dash cam and we'll proceed forward and
I guess if you get anything else, you know, we'll
bring you back on to see what else you have.

Speaker 4 (39:27):
Yeah, thanks, Jerry. That's interesting man, that you had a
great up close setting.

Speaker 5 (39:31):
You're lucky dude, starting to finally feel that way, all right, Jeremy,
You take it easy man, all right, Jeremy, Yeah, thanks
for joining us, and hopefully when you get some more
information in our news, you can come back and join
us telling us you got a good dash cam video
or something.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
All right, Bobo. So yeah, man, that was the most
recent witness that's come in here. And really, I mean
he's a little understated. I think that he was kind
of breathing slow and stuff. In the shop. He did
take those long pauses and stuff, but that's because he's
gathering his thoughts and breath. This was a very moving
emotional experience for Jeremy and the dude six foot three
inches tall former security guard. When I turned around and

(40:09):
saw his eyes welling up. You know, I'm thinking, oh, man,
I felt bad for him. But at the same time,
I'm thinking, I don't feel bad for this guy. He
got a really good look at a sasquatch. I'm jealous.

Speaker 4 (40:19):
How lucky. Yeah, there's all kinds of you know, all
the other things like that in our lives where it's
really a blessing that we don't realize it at the time.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
M hmm. Yeah, this is one of them. We got
a cast out of it, too, a really interesting cool cast.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
I can't wait to see that thing.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
Oh yeah, it's pretty neat, man, it's pretty neat. I
cleaned it off enough to see the toes and we
captured the mid tarsal mid tarsal pressure ridge and we
got four clear toes. It's pretty cool. It's pretty cool,
and it's just as sloppy as I would expect it
to be, considering the flexibility and malleability of the Sasquatch
foot on the angle of slope that it was running up.

(40:57):
It's just the way it should be. It's pretty amazing.

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