Ep. 276 - Q&A - August, 2024

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And now you're hosts Cliff Berrickman and James Bobo Fay.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Greetings, Bobo. How are you doing? My friend?

Speaker 5 (00:33):
All right, let's go to the cliff.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Pretty good, Pretty good. Just got off a gig last week.
I talked to Matt Prue last episode about it, but
you kind of missed it. The Hawking Hills sing. But
the only reason I'm bringing that up now is that
I just want to let you know that quite a
few people that you have never met before want me
to say hi to you for them.

Speaker 5 (00:52):
Hollo everybody.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
There you go, guys. I've done my obligation as I
said I would, So there you go. Anything going on
with you, man.

Speaker 5 (01:00):
I'm going up your way? Well, it's Crazy's vacation this week.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
Sure, we're gonna try to go on to vacation, but
we're deciding to do a staycation instead.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
I don't blame you. There's nowhere else I'd rather be
than home.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Personally, we were looking at going like a case either
like one hundred and five or whatever, you know, all
those places, and there's a lot of smoke and stuff.
So we're just like, well, let's let's just stay here.
If I go to waste a bunch of money, I
hate you.

Speaker 5 (01:25):
I cannot. I hate staying in hotels. It's it's just
like you're getting robbed, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, two hundred bucks a night is kind of a
lot of money for a bed.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
I think, yeah, we're trying to do something on the day,
and it's like we're really just goo to like go
to just go to dinner here and then you like
and not worry about gas, got to the river from
I got to give whatever. Just kind of that kind
of like live a little bit, nothing fancy at all,
just a little better than normal.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Oh yeah, sure, sure, yeah. A vacation with your honey
is nothing. A stay cation with your honey is nothing better, man.

Speaker 5 (01:59):
There's better.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Well, hotels are kind of expensive. If you get one
hundred dollars one then they're kind of dumpy. But you know, Bubba,
what you need is a trailer.

Speaker 5 (02:10):
I can get one.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
I happen to know. I know a guy I'm like
Frank on. It's always sunny in Philadelphia. I know a
guy and.

Speaker 5 (02:17):
He knows a guy.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
Yeah, then I'm going out something that week that I
split straight up to Washington. I got something going on
up there, working on something, and I'll be up there
for a while, and then from there I go down
to uh Sandy, Oregon, and yeah, fix up the trailer.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Nice. Nice, that'll be great because we're a mill in
the wood man. I got to do some milling this week,
and we're going to frame up the inside of the outbuilding.
It's going to be pretty.

Speaker 5 (02:45):
Cool framing it.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, well not all of it, but just like the
back twenty feet or something like that, make a double
decker sort of thing for storage. We're fixing it up
with a little bit of water so I can do
casting down there instead of my garage and try to
clear that out.

Speaker 5 (02:59):
Oh yeah, the Mega Footprint Factory pretty much.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
And also, I mean, you know, once once the other
collection starts showing up, I've got a couple. I got
a line on a couple of those. I need a
place of storm. And frankly, my garage is not big
enough for my cast collection anymore. It's getting crazy.

Speaker 5 (03:16):
Dude, You got you got the perfect.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah, it's going to be great. It's going to be great.
And plus, I mean with all these things we've been
casting lately, I mean the collection I'm gonna go out
tomorrow and where we're going, I mean, there's a very
very reasonable chance of pulling a few more casts. So
I mean every month it seems like I've got between
two and six others because I'm so obsessive about trying
to cast everything that's there. Yeah, I can totally see how.

(03:39):
You know, at the end of Paul Freeman's career out
in the Blues, he wouldn't cast the stuff unless it
was beautiful. He's like, oh, these aren't good enough to cast.
Remember he told Meldrum that the five points trackway that
Meldrum looked at in ninety six. In February, he said
those weren't good enough to cast, and Meldrem said, yeah,
I could see dramatically fix fading in them in the light,
and yeah, he casts I think six r eight of them

(04:00):
in a row, and those blue Meldrum socks off. But yeah,
Freeman was saying, yeah, they aren't very good. I'm not
going to cast him. Of course, now I can see
where he finally arrived at that because frankly, storage is
an issue. But luckily I have that giant outbuilding. You know,
it's practically an airplane hangar, you know, I.

Speaker 5 (04:16):
Want to square feet to four space in it.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
I don't know, I think it's I don't even want
to guess because I'm so bad at that, but I
have it in my head as something like fifty by seventy,
so it's pretty big.

Speaker 5 (04:26):
That sounds about right.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, it's somewhere in there. I don't know, maybe it's
forty six by you know, sixty something, but it's pretty
big no matter what. It is probably bigger than my well,
it's definitely larger than my home, although my home is
kind of a two level thing, so it's hard to say,
but I'm looking forward to it anyway. So nothing, you know,
I mean, I do you know, poke and Heckley and
stuff like that. But it would be great to get
the thing out of there. It's it's not a problem

(04:50):
now because we're not ready to frame. We're still milling
the wood and then of course the mill has to draw,
the wood has to dry, you know, and we're stacking
it and of course, you know, squeeze it and all
that stuff. But you know this this winter though, this
is the plan, like late fall, early winter, we're going
to start framing up the inside of that building there
and make a make a place, a secure place that's

(05:11):
you know, somewhat climate controlled for the casts and and
all my manufacturing stuff and all that jazz, so to.

Speaker 5 (05:17):
Be climate control. Dan, we did it, right, that's a
real museum. There's some degree.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, yeah, I mean we've got some really cool stuff
coming down the pipe in the museum too, and we
have to we're looking at how to how to take
care of you know, like I can't talk about it
because it's not really yet. I don't like to say
what's going to happen till it actually does happen, you know.
But there's some photographs that are like original photographs, and
we need to look at preserving and there's some and
a whole a new collection is on the horizon right now.

(05:47):
And you know, it's not like all this guy's going
to die and we're going to get it. It's like no,
like that. There's another person who's going to donate and
help us out with another collection. So yeah, there's a
lot of big things happen and that I'm looking forward
to being able to talk about a little bit more
freely in the next few months, so we'll see what happens.

Speaker 5 (06:02):
Cool.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah, So lots of stuff is going on here, I mean,
as it always is. I'm going to the woods tomorrow.
I haven't been home, no. Eight I haven't been home
but a couple of days, so I haven't had a
chance to get out to the woods because I was
running pretty ragged before I went to Ohio last weekend.
So since i've been home, it's just been like picking
up the pieces and trying to clean the clutter and
make room for things. It's been terrible here. I'd to

(06:25):
install a new dishwasher, so that took a couple hours yesterday.
It's just been nuts. It's just been absolutely nuts here.
We're doing a I think I mentioned it with Prut
on last week's episode. We're doing a shared exhibit with
the Columbia River Gorge Discovery Center and Museum out there
in the Dowels. There's a really cool museum out there
in the dows and they're going to be showing a

(06:46):
lot of our exhibits. So I'm kind of been scrambling
to get all that stuff up and running and ready
for them by the by earlish middle of next week.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
You got to keep your best stuff at your place,
right I mean, you don't want to get like your
too much good stuff right at once.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Oh yeah, yeah. It's just a sort of thing. It's
just a teaser sort of thing, you know. I think
there's about twelve or fifteen exhibits that we're going to
lend them, which should be nice because that's going to
run from August twenty second through the end of the year,
and in fact, I'm even doing a speaking event at
the museum on August twenty seconds. So I don't know
if theyre I haven't seen a flyer or anything like
that for that yet, but when I do, I'll be

(07:20):
sure to share it with our members and all that
other stuff and just put it on maybe I'll put
it on Facebook or something. But it's just kind of
a teaser thing is going to run till the end
of the year and hopefully drive traffic to the Aren't
My Museum, but also on kind of a bigger picture
sort of level, hopefully it'll kind of open people's eyes
that there is good evidence for sasquatches being real animals.

(07:41):
Of course. And you know, a lot of people go
to that museum and it's like a really nice facility.
It's it's totally legit, man, totally legit, and so we're
real happy to be working with them. They're really nice
people over there, and they've been very, very encouraging. They've
even hosted other exhibits in the past, like when Chris
Murphy was touring with mostly Renate to Hint and Stuff
I Think and all that stuff eventually ended up in

(08:03):
Lauren Coleman's museum out there in Maine. Right, Well, we
got a job to do here, Bobs. You want to
jump into this thing.

Speaker 5 (08:10):
Yeah, that's what he got proud. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
So this is a Q and A episode every single month, Boba.
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(08:35):
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(08:55):
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Speaker 6 (09:39):
Hello, this is Joe and Paul from Ohio. When I
first heard about the DNA, I thought that was going
to be a game changer, But then there's no results.
Does anybody have any explanations as to why e DNA
doesn't bring any results?

Speaker 5 (09:54):
Yeah, I'm one of those sayings I want answers.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah, Actually I have a little bit of insight. I've
been working with the North Carolina Diversity a little bit
on a certain project that I can tell more about.
And that's some other point. But yeah, part of the
problem is that every living thing in the environment sheds
DNA stuff all the time, so it's actually super super
contaminated in a lot of ways. Contaminated may not be

(10:16):
the right word, but there's so much noise in the
signal that it's hard to, you know, pull out the
important bits from my understanding, and I have a very
limited understanding of this kind of stuff, but from an
understand like you take a sample of the ground, like
say a sasquatch or anything, a bear steps in a
puddle or something like that, that puddle or that that

(10:37):
piece of dirt has been there forever pretty much. We'll
just say forever, although maybe it's only twenty years, maybe
it's only fifty years, maybe it's maybe it's a thousand years,
but you get the idea, right, And everything in that
environment is breathing, so the water drop droplets with the
saliva and stuff that all has DNA, everything in there
shedding skin and hair and duff and whatever else, and

(11:00):
it all settles down kind of uniformly and very thinly
throughout the entire environment. In order to pull out the
important stuff, like in our case, what we want to
look at is some sort of primate DNA or homini
or homin in DNA or something like that. You need
to have certain primers, and what a primer does is
that it amplifies certain signals. But the thing is about

(11:23):
that is that we have no primer for sasquatch. There
are bear primers, there are tiger primers, there are there
are you know, elk primers and whatever. So the closer
you get to the target species, the better the primer
is going to be. We would want a sasquatch primer,
but they don't exist. So what we have to do
is kind of guess, okay, primate is a pretty big family,
because that includes to our sears and all this other stuff.

(11:44):
If you use a human primer, then that's going to
amplify the human part of things. And I think that
that is part of the reason we keep getting human
on the hits, because sasquatches are certainly probably like at
least ninety eight percent identical to us in DNA, maybe
even ninety nine ninety nine and a half or more

(12:06):
identical to us in their DNA. So if you are,
you know, amplifying the human part of that, it's going
to come out as human, probably almost every time. I
suspect that's what's been going on these last five or
eight years of doing these kinds of tests. I don't know.
I'm not an expert by any means. I'm a layman
at best, lame man at best. But that is my

(12:27):
understanding is that this is kind of a noised signal ratio,
and the signal we're looking for is so minutely different
that the other signals drowned it out. However, there is
some hope on the horizon, not only in a couple
of Darby's studies. He's got a whole slew of different
things he's doing over there at North Carolina State University,
and I for one, completely support all of his efforts.

(12:51):
But this past winter, an opportunity arose and of footprints
in the snow that were laid down the previous night,
and I call Darby about that, and he goes, well,
this is a really unique opportunity because the only thing
that should have touched that snow in the last twenty
four hours is that animal's foot. And so that situation

(13:12):
like that arising during the winter time is of great importance.
So I'm kind of looking forward to winner for the
first time this year for this reason alone, Because if
we can get fresh sasquatch footprints or even like within
a few days or a week old, the only reason,
there'll be far less contamination so to speak, in that

(13:32):
snow print than there would any footprint in the ground.
And so that gives us a very unique opportunity where
suddenly it's worth it to do kind of this scattershot
sort of approximation e DNA test, whereas against the ground
that's time consuming and money consuming and all this other
the personnel consuming, it's it's a much much much harder

(13:55):
ordeal than if we have something like clean snow that
a sasquatch stepped on last night. That would eliminate a
lot of the other DNA in there. And maybe I'm
way off on this or certainly smarter people than me
listening to this podcast, but that is my understanding from
having worked on a couple of projects with the North
Carolina folks for this last year or two. So I

(14:17):
hope that answers both of your questions, Joe and Paul,
as well as Bobo's cool. Happy to be a service.
And again I could be wrong. I don't lie, but
I'm very often wrong, so fact check me. You know,
ask people who are smarter than me, and you know
DNA people and all that other stuff. So there you go.

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Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bobo.
We'll be right back after these messages.

Speaker 5 (14:49):
All right, Prue, what you gotten next for us?

Speaker 7 (14:51):
Good morning, Cliff, Bobo, and mister Pruitt. This is Matthew
in eastern Oklahoma. We just got back from birding in
the desert south west in the Sky Islands. So these
big mountains that rise up out of the dry, hot desert,
mount lemon Chisos, Basin, Davis Mountains, Madeira Canyon. My question is,

(15:12):
do you have any experiences in or aware of really
good reports that come out of or stories that come
out of these sky islands in the Desert Southwest? Any
comments or insight about sasquatch in the sky Islands of
the Desert Southwest, Thanks guys by.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Well, the sky islands, it's basically a term often used
for these places like in New Mexico and Arizona, where
it's a desert as far as you can see, but
then large mountains kind of appear, or mountain ranges, and
of course being higher up, they'll be wetter, they'll be cooler,
and that the habitat will be better for a variety
of wildlife. So as far as experiences up there, well, yeah,

(15:52):
most of stuff in New Mexico is located in these
kinds of environments, right.

Speaker 5 (15:56):
Oh yeah, well we know, yeah they're there, and actually
I live in those are.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah, the question is do that what's the My question
for those areas, it's like, well, they certainly are up there. There,
there's photo there, there, there's there's a movie, there's photographs
of these things out there. There's tons of reports, the
habitat is great, there's tons of elk and deer, you
name it. Man. There's a lot, a lot of food,
great habitat, a lot of cover. My question is how
often do they move between them? And certainly when when

(16:22):
would they do that? Certainly it would be during the
wintertime because a lot of these, you know, places would
have rivers coming out of them, and they just probably
go through the arroyos, the dried river beds and whatever
else when there's water running through, the kind of like
what they do in southern California. I think, what do
you think, Bobo?

Speaker 5 (16:37):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
You drive out there and I remember, you know, driving
like the ten and the forty and stuff out through
the next kint Arizona, and you look at you like,
especially the next you're looking at it like eight nine
thousand foot elevation. It's you go up there, it's thick
for us. You're like, it's surrounded by desert, but it's
thick for us. And there's everything they need up there.
It's like, ah, I know, you ask you now there

(17:00):
on the border in New Mexico, Arizona. There's a lot
of stuff always going up there, Like people short the
squatches down there go up there a lot and I'll
eve been up there, I guess twice, and that is
such great habitat and I think I think that's a
good place to focus to. There's not this huge thick
county for US northwest that you can you can see,

(17:20):
you can see, and I think jerones would be more
viable that they can see further and not not as obscured.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Well, yeah, another thing that I think a lot of
bigfooters overlook and I know you don't, but I've talked
to you about this, but a lot of bigfooters overlook
the huge variety of plants available on the borders of
deserts and more lush terrain, and these sky islands are
abundant in that, which is another thing you can find,
say on the east side of the Sierra Nevada Range

(17:47):
in California, because the lowlands of the Owens Valley and
south there in Mahabians, so the hardcore desert. That's the
same case, the same case here over in Arizona, New Mexico.
But up on top of these mountains, where these mountains
are capturing the moisture from the clouds and raining, there's
a lot of lush growth, you know, a lot of undergrowth,
a lot of trees, a lot of animals. You go

(18:08):
down the slope, and then of course you start going
into the desert, and where are most of the animals.
They're very often found in transition zones where one biome
turns into another biome. In this case, forests got turning
into desert or something, or chaparral or whatever. That's where
a lot of animals are found. Because when you think
about it, it makes a lot of sense. The desert
has its own resources, its own food items, its own animals,

(18:32):
its own plants, and the forested areas have the same thing.
So where these two areas connect, where they collide, so
to speak, you have the best of both worlds. You
have a much wider variety of plant and animal life
to feed upon. It's just a better habitat in a
lot of ways. That's why hunters always work. These transitions

(18:53):
are not always, but very often worth the transition zones
because that's where the animals are. Because the animals don't
want a wider variety of food. The sky islands are
fantastic locations where whatever movement there is within the species
season the season can be mostly vertical and meet all
of their needs and have a very wide diet.

Speaker 5 (19:13):
It.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
Like, what I find really interesting is when they're seen
in between the skyls, like they're seen it like, well,
there's absolutely no way they live there, but they're seen
in like these full desert you know, like maybe ten
fifteen miles from the nearest suitable habitat, you know, and
there get they get spotted out there.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Oh certainly, I mean, and then they would do they
would do that sort of thing, and the same sort
of way off off the coast of British Columbia or Alaska,
they see, oh there's an island over there, I'm going
to swim to it. It would be the exact same thing.
In this case, it's a sky island and they don't
need to swim, so they can actually go faster. Yeah,
they just do so at night and when the weather
is cool, I think, I think winter time. Well, you know,

(19:54):
you and I have both talked on this podcast about
doing footprint investigations in the Mahabi river bed, you know,
between the hatch Apee and the southern California Mountains, and
those were always in December and January, so it makes
a little bit of sense. Yeah, So there you go.
Matthew I don't know if that answers your question, but
it seems like it does. I hope it does at least,
so thanks so much for listening. I appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (20:16):
Yeah, Hey, Prude.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Do we have another voicemail for us?

Speaker 8 (20:19):
Hey, Cliff and Bobo. This is Nick from New Jersey.
I currently have about thirty acres of forested land in
New Jersey with a bunch of cellular cameras on the property.
Whenever the cameras are off, I feel that the bear
activity is way higher. Do you think black bears and
also do you think sasquatch are able to detect the
frequencies from cameras or the IR I'm super interested because

(20:43):
just last week we saw five black bears once the
cameras were all turned off. Love the show.

Speaker 5 (20:50):
I've never heard that Maybe I don't know.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Well, yeah, I mean they might be able to detect them.
I think through we've talked a lot about how I
personally think sasquatches might be able to year that sort
of electronic you know, wine or hum or, whatever you
want to call it, in small electronics that I think
that's a real possibility. I know I've certainly got more
than my fair share of photographs and videos of a

(21:14):
wide variety of wildlife looking directly at the camera in
its first photographs, So it's not like the flash went
off and then it noticed. Remember that, I don't believe
there's an ir beam coming out of your cameras anyway.
It's a passive ir thing where the text movement in
front of it, so there is no light coming out
of a camera. And you can test this by using

(21:35):
night vision and looking at your camera in the dark,
because night vision sees infrared and I've never noticed that,
so I'm pretty sure it doesn't do that. But yeah,
there might be some sort of sound coming out of it,
but can bears detect it? Absolutely smell. That's why that's
why they sell these metal bear containers, well not bear containers,
camera containers for bears. You know. These these basically armor

(21:58):
for your game cameras made at a metal that you
can attach the trees to stop the bears from chewing
up your game cameras because they smell it. And you
can tell that they can smell it because they come
up and eat it and sniff it. And I've got
a lot of pretty close pictures of a bears sniff
in my camera and luckily none of them have tried
to eat it so far. But they literally sell armor
for your game cameras to stop the bears from eating them,

(22:21):
so you don't lose expensive equipment out of the woods.
I don't think that's the case with sasquatches, And just
by looking at the two species, you can probably guess why.
The bears, just like dog and deer and other animals
like that that have a very good sense of smell,
haven elongated snout, and that is to increase the surface
area where the smell nerves are located to give them

(22:43):
a better sense of smell, where sasquatches and humans and
all the other ape species have a flat, relatively flat
face without an elongated nose. So even though the other
ape species, including sasquatches, probably have a better sense of
smell than human beings, because we've domesticated at ourselves, we
all have about the same And it's not that great.
It's good, it's good enough to survive, but it's not

(23:06):
that great. It has nowhere near that a dog or
a bear or anything like that. So can they detect
them absolutely through smell? But you know, but it's something
else you said, I think is of interest. You said,
I feel there is more bear activity when the game
cameras aren't out or are off. I think is what
you said. Okay, that's nice, but maybe you should collect

(23:29):
some numbers on that, because gut feelings can be very,
very misleading. And it's a simple thing, you know, just
start to keep a journal, make an Excel sheet or something,
and it's like, every time you see one, mark the
date and see if it's on or off. Select a
little bit of data, because I think as a Bigfoot community,
we're hoping to up the game a little bit and
stop depending on our opinions or our feelings and start

(23:51):
depending more on data. So I would encourage you that direction,
and maybe there's something to it. And when you get
the data in, look at the pattern and then ask
yourself a question, huh, I wonder if it's the case
that they're noticing it somehow. Then design yourself an experiment
on one side of your property, on one side of
your thirty acres, turn on the game cameras on the
other side, keep them off, do a test thing, and

(24:11):
then switch that every couple of months, and then in
one little area do this and that. Design an experiment,
just to get to the bottom of it. Do some science.
We're all capable of this and it's super fun to do.
So that's my encouragement for you.

Speaker 5 (24:23):
All Right, we got any written ones?

Speaker 2 (24:26):
We sure do, I think so. As the last voicemail,
why don't we hop into the written questions and Bobo
you can read the first one.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
This is from Chris Tierney after hearing about Bobo's cat
feeding business. Can you quote me for coming to England
to feed my cat for a weekend. I have a
big guard and so Cliff can send his trailer for
and kill two birds with one stone. Keep it the
good work, love the podcast. I'm definitely available, Chris, and
I'll work cheap. Just a first class airline ticket and

(24:54):
twenty bucks.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
I think that's more than fair. You're you're going to
find a better deal than that, Chris. Now, although it's
going to be expensive to get its trailer over there,
it's worth it. And then killing birds, I don't know,
what do you have against birds? Okay? Yeah, so kill
two birds with one stone? I don't know. Yeah, I

(25:15):
prefer stones to birds. Okay. The next question here is
from Jacob Jacob Ce specifically, what is in your opinion,
the most underrated place you have squatched at? Also, what
is the most overrated? Thank you and keep it squatchy.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
I gotta go with Massachusetts for me for underrated, five
for five and that's five trips are. I might be
going out there with Bart to go see John Wilke
and some Red Sox games and do some squatching for
a few nights too. We'll see that that that's going
to come together in September.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Now, what about your what's the most overrated?

Speaker 4 (25:49):
Ooh, maybe like the U out of the giants, like
the Redwoods down southern Humboldt, Northern member seem like in
the Redwood specifically in like the parts and stuff. I
think I don't think there's I think people think they're
there more than they are.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
That's an interesting point, Yeah, because I think we've been trained,
so to speak, by media and whatnot, to think that,
you know, ferns and redwoods and stuff like, oh, they've
got to be there. Look how squatchy it looks because
it looks so lush beautiful, right. But yeah, and certainly
they're there. Certainly they're there. But a lot of the places,
like when I do follow ups with witnesses and stuff.

(26:25):
A lot of the places aren't like that at all.
They're kind of could more than I would ever expect,
have those kind of like pecker poles, sort of like
densely packed regrowth and real so's so dense that nothing
really grows in the understory, which is in stark contrast
to the Redwoods, where all sorts of things are growing
in the understory. Yeah, a lot of times I'm actually

(26:47):
stricten by struck by how unattractive the places where sasquatches
have been seen are, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (26:57):
Yeah, like marshes and swamps.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Yeah, a little bit of that, But I'm even just
thinking like these kind of desolate brown forests of thick
sticks and all that stuff, you know. And I can
see why they like it, you know, because it's hard
to move around without making noise, and you know, you
can't see if it hide in and stuff. But it's
not exactly an attractive place in my opinion, at least.
I mean, I like it, but I think you might

(27:22):
be right, you know, Like the Redwoods, I mean, they
look amazing, and they certainly look like the stereotypical squatchy area,
but as most stereotypes prove to be not true, you know,
it's just not necessarily the case. And I think, I mean,
I know there's a lot of food and stuff in
the redwoods particularly, but I think there's actually less biodiversity
in some of those places because of the predominance of

(27:45):
certain other plants, you know.

Speaker 5 (27:46):
Right, I mean there's a lot of bottle versus.

Speaker 4 (27:48):
There's probably more to bottle versity in the redwoods, but
there's not stack up the calories.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
To a lot of Yeah, so I might be with you.
As nice as the northern California redwoods look, and certainly
there are sasquatches there, I'm not saying.

Speaker 5 (28:05):
That, Yeah they're there. They're in there in certain spots,
but not all over.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
No. Yeah, I think I think that the keyword here
is in the question overrated, you know, overrated for sasquatch stuff.

Speaker 4 (28:18):
It's still better than a lot of places, but it's
it's like, yeah, so when you have that stereotypical thing
a minus redwoods and ferns.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yeah, you know, you know, the first place that jumped
to my mind as far as underrated places is southern
Indiana and Illinois. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like along the rivers
there like they're really, really good, a lot of fantastic
habit to have because oh they're in Kentucky but not Indiana.
Come on, get your get your mind straight, because one
river separates it. Do they are there? They are absolutely there,

(28:46):
and a lot of stuff happens. It's just that no
one really talks about it because there aren't very many
researchers in the area. There are some, there are definitely some,
and thankfully there are some that document this sort of stuff,
but I think southern Indiana was probably the first place
that to my mind, although you know you're right about
the Massachusetts as well. I think, Thank goodness, John Wilkins

(29:06):
his buddies are out there.

Speaker 5 (29:07):
So yeah, all right, what do.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
We hop to the next question? Here? This one's yours, Bobs.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
Okay, this one's from Ronnie Brayley High Cliff and Bobo.
I really enjoy your podcast. I've been catching up on
old episodes that I'm especially enjoying the episode that episodes
that have Cliff trying to figure out why Bobo is
so radiant.

Speaker 5 (29:24):
But I digress.

Speaker 4 (29:26):
I'm wondering what happens to the test of DNA samples
that came back unknown. Is anyone comparing the unknowns to
each other and compiling a library of unknown related specimens
so that when Sasquatch is disoveredy already will already have
a data bank of information about them. Thank you, and
keep it squashy. Yeah, that's so I've been wondering they
must write, I mean, or that they don't.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
What is it, Cliff, I've got a little bit of
insight on this one as well. So Darby or Cut
at the North Carolina study there is doing a great
job tracking down all these rumors. Basically, you know, because
we've all heard rumors, and this mythology of you know,
this DNA test came back that this one, that one,

(30:07):
et cetera, you'd be I'm surprised, and Darby is also surprised.
I might add I don't want to put words in
his mouth, of course, but we should probably have Derby
back on to talk about this stuff again. But from
what I understand, and again I could be wrong, I
might be incorrect, So always always fact check me. I'm
just telling you the truth as I understand it, slightly

(30:29):
more than opinion. Basically, from what I understand a lot
of this these rumors are just patently false. Basically, the
DNA tests either never happened or it became part of
the storied mythology of Bigfoot that this happened. There are
very very very few cases where they seem to be

(30:52):
tested at all, and the the data, and even the
results weren't necessarily save I know one case involving the
nests up there in the Olympic Peninsula, the tests of
the and the data of that are buried in a
university email where the person who tested is not at
that university anymore and has no access to it, so

(31:14):
again virtually lost. There's no way we can get that stuff. Yeah,
And a lot of these other DNA tests either didn't
happen or started out as like, oh, my friend told
me that that, and then I put it out online,
and then that got carried away and turned into this
this this idea that it was going on, and a
very small number of other cases the testing or science

(31:38):
was either bad or or the results are behind this
wall and the data is not being shared so it
can't be checked. So apparently, the gist of it here, Ronnie,
is that almost no tests have ever been done, and
in the very small number of cases where it was done,

(32:02):
the data and results were either blown out of proportion
into rumors or or they just simply aren't traceable. There's
no there's almost nothing left to show from these things.
I'm sure, I mean, and now I've just spoken to
people about these things. That's what I was told. But
I mean, maybe we should have Darby back on, because

(32:24):
I think he has very good information on this stuff,
because he's the guy on the phone tracking these people down.
You know, when somebody says, oh no, I heard it
was tested and was human. Okay, well, who'd you hear
that from? And then he calls that person who'd you
hear it from? Called that person? Who'd you hear it from?
Called that person? And eventually it comes back to like,
oh no, no, like the hair sample, they said it
was given by a person or some some twist of

(32:46):
words or something like that, and it turned out not
even to be true. So I was shocked because I
was a believer in this mythology as well. And when
I say mythology, I don't mean something that's that's a
patent lie. I'm saying the myth. I use mythology in
the terms of a story that is carried on and
changed a little bit as time goes on and becomes

(33:07):
a truth even though it perhaps there's really no truth
behind it. That's what I mean by a mythology here. Okay,
but apparently that's the case. Like almost no study or
sample really has ever been tested, and the very few
that have the results are missing the sample is missing
or the data is missing, so there's not much else

(33:27):
you can do about it. Functionally speaking, at this point,
we're starting from ground zero. So it's on us, it's
incumbent upon us now to do a better job than
the people who came before us. And make sure that
if you if you give a sample to somebody, even
North Carolina State University, don't give them every sample. Give
them a one or two samples. If you have twenty hairs,

(33:48):
give them one or two. Let's see what they can
do with it. Because you want to keep those other samples,
no matter who you give them to. You want to
keep those other samples for peer of you. Basically give
it to somebody else to see if they get the
same results. You know, I think that's an important part here.
Don't give them everything, give them enough to do what

(34:08):
they need to do. And then if you get a
fantastic positive result. Well, let's get to test it somewhere else.
Let's get a totally independent and someone not involved in
any of the stuff involved and tested to see what
they come up with. Because if you did that, like
three four, five times in all of these various parties
with no dog in the fight, come up with the

(34:29):
same result, that is amazing and that's what we're all
shooting for. Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with
Cliff and Bobo. Will be right back after these messages.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
All right, So she go the next one, Scott Peterson Riots,
How different would your lives be if you two never
met each other?

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Well, my life would be much less rich than it
is now. Me too, Yeah, not monetary, just because Bobo.
Bobo's like the you know, it's dark all night than
the sunrises. Having Bobo in my life is like having
a sunrise every day.

Speaker 5 (35:09):
Thank you, Cliff, You're welcome. You're like a beautiful sunset.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
I'd have more room in my outbuildings.

Speaker 5 (35:18):
It boils down to.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Yeah, that's basically what it boils down to. Sunrise. Screw
that happens every day, man, I'd have a better more
room in my outbuilding. So no, Bobo. Bobo is is
a brother to me, always will be one of my
best friends forever, and I can't thank existence enough for
bringing him into my life. Love the man, always will.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
I couldn't say it better myself, Cliff, I don't know.
I clip makes you look stupid, makesure look smart. It's
a bigger smarter haight now the smart guys making stupid.
Having a smart guy say smart stuff all the time.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Your mom, I know your mom likes having me in
your life.

Speaker 5 (35:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Finally someone normal, Yeah instead of you know, like rubber
arm Joe or whatever one of your friends.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
You need to ask Alice whether Cliff falls into the
category of epic or classic.

Speaker 5 (36:13):
Should say wonderful?

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Did you guys get that Ai thing? I asked, I
asked Ai. I'm using Bobo, you know, from finding Bigfoots.
I guess, mindset. What's the difference between classic and epic?
Did I send you guys that right?

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Yeah, we talked about that was on a Member's Only
episode when we discussed trying to parse out the difference
between Bobo's designation of classic or epic for a given person,
and then that you had Ai generated rubric a Bobo
coolness factor rubric. So maybe we'll post that for members too.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yeah, that's right, that's right. Another benefit of membership, guys,
if you want to be a member. Yeah, classic versus
epic rubric. All right, should we go to the next
question here?

Speaker 5 (36:58):
Sure?

Speaker 2 (37:00):
This one is from Luis Fierro. Hello, guys, Cliff, Bobo
and Matt love the podcast. I've been a fan since
the Finding Bigfoot TV show and then I continued listening
to you guys with the podcast. Keep up what you
are doing. I have a question about the audio analyzer
used with Spectrogram to visualize the sound files sent for analysis.

(37:23):
What is the program's name or what do you recommend
to analyze sound recordings? The free one everybody uses is
Audacity AU d I.

Speaker 7 (37:33):
AU D r C I T y A U D
A C I T one.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
There you go. Yeah, I was trying to write it
down as I was saying, and I can't say letters
and write down the other ones at the same time.
Sorry about that. Audacity, and there's another one called Sonic Visualizer.
I don't use those because because of the museum. I
am a subscriber to the Adobe Creative Suite, because I
use Premiere Pro for doing the membership videos that we

(37:58):
do every week every month rather. And then of course
I use Illustrator for designing the museum displays, and I
use Photoshop for photo analysis and all. So I use
the Audition Adobe Addition, which is their sound deal in there.
I use that one. But as far as free stuff,
Audacity and Sonic Visualizer I think are the go tos.
Have you guys heard anything different?

Speaker 5 (38:18):
No, Audacity use is.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Yeah, Audacity because it's free and open source. A lot
of people use that because it's compatible with Windows or Mac,
and there's many many resources online for tutorials or how
to and there's a lot of like YouTube content dedicated
to teaching in different ways of using it. So your
best bet is probably Audacity.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Yeah, why pay money? I would use Audacity if I
didn't didn't have a need through my business to uh
to have those other programs that I mentioned.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
So, and I would say personally, like if you send
off files, because people send me files all the time.
So I would recommend people, if you want to have
a research or listen to your files, snip just the
most relevant content, like maybe a minute minute and a
half at the most, and don't do any filtering. Just
send the raw files, like you can play around with

(39:08):
filters for your own edification or try to tease things out.
But when people send me something that's so heavily processed,
I'm like, man, I can't make an evaluation on this
because they all sound fabricated at that point. So I
would much rather hear the raw file than something heavily
filtered and processed where there's no context. You can't hear
the ambient environment, You can't really get any sort of

(39:31):
spatial context about how far away something is because it's
been amplified to oblivion and all the other sounds filtered out.
It just sounds like a synthesizer. And so I always
have to go back to people like, hey, man, send
me the raw file if you would, and over half
the time I never hear from them again, which I
think is a little suspicious.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Oh, and you hit the nail on the head there
as far as clipping it out too, because nothing drives
me nuts more than well, a lot of things drive
me nuts in general, but one of the many things
that drives Cliff nuts is hey, what do you think
the sound is? And then I get like a file
that's thirty five or forty five minutes long. It's like,
I'm not going to listen to that. First of all,
I don't really care that much. I'm not that in

(40:11):
the audio. I'll listen if you want my opinion on something,
But thirty five minutes I'm not going to listen to that.
Who would who would?

Speaker 5 (40:17):
No?

Speaker 2 (40:17):
To clip out that you said like a minute? I
think that's that even that's kind of a lot for
me personally. Give me the twenty seconds of interest, you know,
and then I've got twenty or thirty seconds to spare.
But I don't have forty five minutes to sit down
and listen to your camping trip to hear a knock
in the background. Come on, man, you know it's it

(40:39):
just makes sense and in some ways like its be
respectful of our time, and in other ways it's like,
how do I know knocks? In general? You know, knocks
are really hard to tell because I don't know if
there is somebody shifting their weight in a chair and
knock something on the table or something. I kind of
like the video thing for Knox, you know, I saw,
I mentioned I saw this great video by this dude

(40:59):
from Spain who may or may not be a listener.
He was to the museum. I don't remember his name
off the top of my head. It's like either Louise
or something like that, robertro or Louise, I don't remember.
But anyway, he comes over here, I think every summer
because he's a fireman from Bombero in Spain. He comes
over and trips around and does bigfoot stuff. He's had
a couple of sightings, but he goes amazing places, amazing places.

(41:22):
But he showed me this awesome video that he took.
It was out in the Olympics somewhere actually nowhere. It
was out by Iroley Lake, which is a great spot
out in the Quanault area. I think it was in
that general area. Could be wrong, though, but he was.
He started videoing on his phone and he said that
this was the last like two minutes of this twenty
minute encounter that he had. He was knocking and then

(41:44):
he got knocks back, and over the next fifteen to
twenty minutes, the thing was getting closer and closer, and
he would knock and it would knock back. And this
is on video, so I saw this. He would knock
twice and it would knock twice. It was like copying
him back and forth, and it sounded like it was
literally just right over the ledge, you know, he whispered
something in his phone, and then everything shut down.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
For me personally, Like, I'm just not that interested in
hearing knocks or whistles. And with whistles too, I think,
you know, don't send them to sasquatch researcher. Send them
to ornithologists because they can rule out you know, there's
basically like an innumerable species of birds in North America,
and so ornithologists can tell you, you know, you tell them
the general region and the time, and they'll tell you

(42:28):
what it is if it is a bird, and if not,
then you have something. But otherwise when people send me knocks,
it's like, well, I'm not that interested because anybody can
generate a knock. When it comes to whistles, like I
can't rule out certain bird species, but the big moaning
howls I'm interested in, or you know, other characteristic vocalizations
that no other animal can generate. But otherwise the other stuff,

(42:49):
I'm like, ah, I'm not that excited about it.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
What should we hop onto the next question?

Speaker 4 (42:54):
Yeah, okay, this is from Kendall Harper Hey, guys, great
and thank you for continuing to persist and bring this
subject closer to serious academic consideration.

Speaker 5 (43:04):
You're welcome.

Speaker 4 (43:05):
What I'm curious about is the idea that everyone must
have Bembard you with great spots if one has an area.

Speaker 5 (43:10):
Are you guys generally interested in being made aware of these?

Speaker 4 (43:13):
Is it taboo to try to to try in hound
researchers such as yourselves.

Speaker 5 (43:18):
To check out an area. Yeah, we uh, we definitely
get a lot of that, especially when you go.

Speaker 4 (43:23):
I mean you want, like I when feel it's somebody spuss,
I'm like, I gotta go, and then the reality, like,
you know, trying to get there and logistics and cost
and time. It's especially when you go to these conferences.
When you go to a Bigfoot conference, you get at
least twenty or thirty people are going like, you.

Speaker 5 (43:39):
Got to come with me. You won't believe it, you know.

Speaker 4 (43:41):
And and it's it gets overwhelming at times because there's
there's there's literally a thousand.

Speaker 5 (43:47):
Hot spots around the country, you know, local spots.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
Oh yeah, easily easily. And you know, I mean we're
not flying around on Animal Planet's dime anymore. Right, You
got to you got to remember, if you have a
spot in Texas, he's you got to come because I
heard a sound. Well, that's awfully flimsy for me to
spend six hundred dollars on a plane ride and some
hotels and stuff to come out because you heard a sound.

(44:11):
And honestly, eighty seventy eighty percent of all that stuff
kind of boils down to that you heard a sound
that you find compelling, and you want me to come
out to hear it too. And I get that. I
totally get it, because I want to share with my
friends and people I like as well. I get that,
but a sound is not much to go on. And

(44:33):
then of course I get this stuff like you got
to come to my grandma's hollow because she heard Knox
in ninety four. So well, no, no, I don't have
I don't actually have to go there.

Speaker 4 (44:42):
We get we get eyewitnesses though, like they'll have like
footprint casts and like you know photos of like good
breaks on their tree, breaks on their property, and you know,
have some auto recording, like you know, people like that
like that they have to sustained over time, and they've
got multiple witnesses and they got some evidence.

Speaker 5 (44:57):
Those are we get those too, and those are those
are the ones that like just like god, you just
want to go so bad.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Yeah, but there's time, there's money. There's a lot of
things involved, you know, getting away from the business for
me or getting away from Melissa. There's just a lot
of things involved in that, and and I think for
the most part people understand. And really for the most part,
people are saying, I've got a cool spot and I'm
excited about it, and that's great, that's great. But you
know what the best thing to do with that, or
what I try to do is like, oh, that's great,

(45:26):
you work it. Why do you need me there? I'm
nobody special. I can hear it too. You can hear it,
you know, I can hear it. You can hear it. Whatever,
you go work it and you get the information and
you get the data out of there. That's the cool part,
you know. Just I'm interested in people think that for
whatever reason, that our opinion matters more because we're on TV.

(45:49):
Trust me, being on TV does not make your opinion matter,
you know what I mean? Yeah, trust me on that one.
There's a lot of nonsense out there and a lot
of people who have a very loud megaphone that probably
ought not to have any volume on at all. But
I understand that people are excited about it because they've
watched this on TV. But honestly, at the end of
the day, you go do it. It's your spot. The

(46:10):
responsibility is on you. And then of course you do
get those psychopaths. I say, well, I guess Cliff berwck
when doesn't care about it Bigfoot because he's not coming
out to my spot all the way across the country. Well,
that's a mentally ill thing to say, you know, like
to blame somebody and presume you know what their motivations
are because they're not interested in spending one thousand dollars

(46:31):
on a weekend. You know, that's ridiculous. So you get
all kinds. Most the vast majority of people are just
well meaning people who are excited about the thing that
they observed or experienced and they want to share it,
and that's totally cool. And then of course there's the
other side too that gets a lot darker and weirder too,
So we're subject to all of that. Any Bigfoot researcher

(46:52):
in the game for a few years or more that
has somewhat of a name or a reputation in the
community is going to be subjected to all of these
and will be some new things too.

Speaker 4 (47:01):
I'm definitely a lot more interested in things that are
like within a reasonable drive, like something West Coast or
you know, when I hear of all these hotspas in
Tennessee and wherever, you know, it's like there's no I
can just drive there, you know, like in a day
or something.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Yeah, it's part of the reason I chose to live
where I live, kind of halfway between say northern California
and like British Columbia. Something happens outstanding, like a film
or a huge land of footprints or something, I can
be there that day if I need to. But even then,
you know, like if there is somebody, if a if
a civilian filmed one, I would need to see the

(47:39):
film before I go. If if somebody stumbled upon tracks,
I would need to see pictures of the tracks to
convince me before I go. And there a few cases,
you know, like not last year, but the year before.
I think it was Tom Shay out in Kentucky was
telling me that there's a property that has a lot

(47:59):
of activity and this and that and stuff and I
wanted to go there, and I found a way to
go there. I went to Cryptidcon out there in Kentucky,
a great job that's every November, like the weekend before Thanksgiving.
It's going on this year as well. And while I
was there, I just extended my flight a little bit,
so I flew out on the organizer's dime and it
doesn't cost them anymore. They don't care. I flew out

(48:21):
on the organizer's dime. And I went camping with Tom
Shaeffer night or two out on this property, and sure
enough I cast a print. It was great. I got
a great interview from the property owner. I looked around,
found a bunch of hairs. They weren't sasquatch hairs, but
they were horse hairs, and some other things. Found some
possible footprints, and there was one good enough to actually
cast that was made just a few days before. And

(48:42):
I know that because the person living there saw the
sasquatch that made it, and I asked her where it walked,
and that's where we found the footprint. So in those cases, yeah,
it works out really well. But again, I need to
be convinced even before I drive five hours to go
check something out because five hours translates into a couple
hundreds of gas and a lot of time. So yeah,

(49:02):
I need to be convinced. And just because you told
me that somebody heard knocks down in the hollow back
in the eighties doesn't mean I need to go there.
It means you need to go there often and get
more stuff. Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with
Cliff and Bobo will be right back after these messages. Besides,

(49:26):
bringing in other researchers could change the whole scene too,
Like if you have one of these long term witness situations,
you know, and you bring in a herd of researchers
or even a handful, the sasquatches may pick up on
it and may act differently. That's the thing. Sure, Yeah,
these are you know, these are intelligent. These are intelligent

(49:46):
critters basically that interact with their environment and they change
their behaviors based on what they observe. Talk about the
the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, Yeah, that that kind of applies
here in a different sort of way. Obviously, they're not
subatomic particles, and it is quantum mechanics has nothing to
do with it, actually, But at the same time, if
an animal knows it's being observed, it's going to change

(50:07):
its behavior. So if a stranger comes on a property,
they're probably not going to act like they normally do.
So there's lots of things to keep in mind and
situations like this, before you invite anybody out to a location,
are you really sure you want to do that? Think
it over? Okay, maybe now we go onto the last
question here, and this one is from Nathan Johnston. This

(50:29):
is a question for Cliff. If Finding Bigfoot only lasted
one season, would you still have opened the NABC. I
don't know. Probably, well, I don't know because part of
the reason I opened the NABC is because my teaching
credential expired while I was on the show. And if
you don't know, teachers are required to pay out of
their own pocket to go get Masters units and pay

(50:49):
for all these courses and stuff to keep their credential updated.
You have to do so. I think it was once
every five years or something like that. And so at
the end of the day, when I was looking at okay,
I got to rejoin the workforce after finding Bigfoot? What
am I going to do? I was saying, Okay, Well,
it's going to cost four to six thousand bucks for
me to get these these units. And then I got
to you know, that's going to take a year, so

(51:10):
I can't work for a year, and maybe there's another option.
And then of course, you know, David Melinda Bakara from
the Museum ount in Georgia, or Lauren Coleman and various
other people were said, well, you have a lot of
bigfoot stuff, why don't you consider doing a Bigfoot museum?
I mean, and so I did, so I did, but
I don't know. If I still had my teaching credential

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when it did go off the air, I suspect I
probably would have just gone back into the teaching, you know, workforce.
I don't know, But now that I have the museum,
I would probably deem that as to be a mistake
because I'm having a really good time with the museum.
I'm doing better Bigfoot work now than I ever have,
including on finding Bigfoot, getting more answers, getting more data,

(51:55):
get more evidence, and just having more fun. So I
don't know. I guess I'm glad. I mean, I'm glad
for a lot of reasons. It went on for ninety seasons,
because I met my wife, you know, two thirds of
the way through. But but yeah, I don't know if
I would have the I don't think I would have
the NABC. I'd probably go back in the teaching workforce.

Speaker 5 (52:14):
What a waste.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
I know, things happen for a reason. Yeah, So there
you go, another episode down of Q and A with
Bigfoot and Beyond. Unless you have a question, Bobo.

Speaker 5 (52:26):
I don't have any questions, all.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Right, there you go, no answer needed. Why don't you
take us out of here? Then, Bob's and we'll go.
We'll go hop over to the members session because I
know that there's a bunch of questions over there, and
our members get their and their questions answered all the time.
But this is gonna be a good one, I think.

Speaker 5 (52:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (52:42):
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And until next week you all keep it Squatchy.

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