Ep. 298 - Q&A - January, 2025

Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
And now your hosts Cliff Berrickman and James Bubo Fay.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Hey, everybody, Welcome to Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and
Bobo and Matt. Although Bobo is not here currently, he's
running it behind. We are expecting him shortly, so uh,
you know, hang out for a little while and the
Bobes will show up. That's kind of how we run
around here. But anyway, Yeah, Matt is here.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Hello, Matt.

Speaker 4 (00:47):
How you doing.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
I'm doing great. How you doing? Cliff? I'm all right.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
I was just down down in the outbuilding, you know.
I'm working on that dedicated room for the footprint cast.
My cast collection has outgrown my garage, so I got
to do something.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
It's not gonna be.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Done by the time you're here though, for squatch Fest
this week or next week or whenever that is, but
looking forward to getting it all complete.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
It's gonna be pretty great.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
If it's not done, I'm gonna call the whole thing off.
You might have to is the outbuilding haunted by the
ghost of Bobo's trailer.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
No, no, I don't think. I think I think that
left with Bobo actually and the trailer. Yeah, the spirit
of the trailer. I'm not sure there was much spirit
left in that trailer by the time you dragged it away. Actually,
does it haunt your dreams?

Speaker 3 (01:29):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:29):
No, I just feel like, you know, like when you
clean a room and you just feel the chief flow,
like like the fun shwai is just better that. That's
how my whole life is a moment is in Yeah. Yeah, yeah,
it's a way of life around here. But yeah, I'm
looking forward to getting that. I'm framing it up and
you're gonna do some dry wall or something in there.
We're gonna increase the storage. There's gonna be a work bench.

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I'm gonna have a place to u not not like
a tool work bench that'll be like outside in the
outbuilding proper, but you know, some sort of like cast
work bench where I can do my cast pouring and
all that sort of stuff in there. You great lightings
for examining the data and then the evidence and stuff. Yeah,
it's gonna be great. I've got a lot of cool
plans for this really looking forward to getting going. And

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on top of it all, I might be able to
park my car in the garage for the first time
in my adult life. Yeah, because my cast have always
taken up the spot, you know, which would be great
because I don't know if I talked about this in
the podcast, but my car leaks like crazy. It's insane
and this, you know, I happen to live at the
Pacific Northwest where it rains all the time, so my

(02:35):
car is just perpetually wet on the inside, which is
kind of a bum out.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Oh that's odd because it's not that old of a vehicle.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Well, it's eleven years old. I bought it, I remember
December thirtieth, twenty thirteen, so it's like eleven twelve years
old now.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
So well, my vehicle's twenty five years old, so I
guess comparatively, yours feels just so brand.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
New, brand spanking new.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Well, you know, I'll tell you what, maybe I won't
and come get you from the airport and you to
go what is this? What is this?

Speaker 3 (03:04):
So you know it's terrible. Is twenty five years considered vintage?
I think?

Speaker 4 (03:09):
So?

Speaker 3 (03:09):
So I can now say I drive a vintage automobile.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
I suppose, yeah, I suppose.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
So I don't know what the where the cutoff is.
We'll say twenty five. It's fun. We did get an
interesting email that came in.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
So last week's episode it dropped yesterday as we're recording today.
Because I like alliterative titles, it was our topical episode,
so I titled it Fossil Footprints, Savage Squirrels and Decorative Drones.
Since today's a Q and A episode, you know, I
go in the email make sure I've got all the
most current questions, and so I just went back into
the email to double check see if anything had come
in last minute, and we had an email that just

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came in from John Rudolph, and he said, just listen
to the episode. I live in Weatherford, Texas, and I've
personally witnessed the squirrels around here, hunting, chasing down, killing,
and eating from the head down to the body large
what I call tree squirrels. It's not often seen and
unknown if it's a territorial thing, are actually a diet
for them. I last saw this behavior in twenty fifteen,

(04:04):
a year before my youngest was born. Love the show,
keep up the good work. One of my faves to
listen to Bigfoot and Beyond Forever. So thank you John
for sending that in. I thought, that's that's got to
be a pretty wild thing to see.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's crazy, man, that's crazy. But you know,
this is kind of one of the things that there's
a parallel here, you know, because this guy John, he
knew about this, he's seen it.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Of course.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
And then now the scientists are finally catching up, you know,
because we something that's unlooked for, much like our hairy
friends in the woods. You know, the local people know
about them, the native people who lived amongst them know
about them. You know, people who've seen them know about them,
all that sort of stuff, and we're just kind of
waiting for the scientists to catch up in a way,
you know.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
And we have to contend with the fact that a
new threat has emerged, and it's yet another thing to
be watchful for. Is the savage squirrels.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, I seeking carnivorous squirrels that could change everything. Yeah, Luckily,
I think the squirrels know they're small, which nice and
not like a chihuahua, because chuahuas don't know they're small.
But squirrels I think know they're there, they're prey item,
so they kind of stay out of our way. But
you know, if we had a say, a I'm not
sure what they'd call a pod, a tribe, a troop

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of like say, burrowing chihuahuas that were carnivorous nearby, there'd
be problems.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Absolutely, I can attest to that firsthand. Yeah, you go
to Chiuala, right, Yeah, and it was it was evil. Yeah,
I remember Bobo never liked that thing.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
It was fearless.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
That's the one thing I saw Bobo be legitimately terrified
to the point that it would just enter a room
and stare at him. And I'd be upstairs and he
would yell for me, and he'd be like, bro it,
bro get in here, and I'd run, you know, thinking
of those wrong.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
I'd be like, what's wrong, and he'd.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Go, he's looking at me, he's looking at me. Well,
it is a Q and A. Should we jump into
it and just let Bobo pick up wherever he shows up?

Speaker 3 (05:53):
We should? We only got one voicemail.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
You know this this tends to happen every year, like
right around the holidays, like Christmas in New Year, the
questions slow down a bit. So we've got one voicemail
and a number of written questions, and then a lot
of great questions from our members for the membership section.
So I figure since we have a smaller batch of
questions new questions, submitters here are lucky in that we
can give a little bit more time than usual to
these questions. Because usually I aim for ten and doing

(06:18):
an hour long podcast, we have to spend only so
much time on so many, but with the smaller number
we can spend a little bit more time. But we
can start with the voicemail here that has a question
for you and a comment for Bobo, And so if
Bobo joins, I'll just play in the comment portion and
he can respond to it. But this is a perennial
question that we get often. We did address it once

(06:39):
with help from a special guest on a members episode,
but it'd be good to address on the main show here.

Speaker 5 (06:44):
So here goes Hi Cleff, Hi Bobo, Hi Matt. This
is Christina, one of your biggest fans. I have been
to the museum a couple times. I would listen to
the podcast all the time, hoping to make it to
the museum again this year, and I'm currently watching Finding
Bigfoot for the first time. I have one question for Cliff,

(07:04):
a serious question, because you used to be a teacher.
Is it bigfoot or bigfoots? I need to know the
answer to this because it drives me insane. And Bobo,
I'm watching season seven right now, and your facial expressions
when Bobcat was doing the scream when he was on
an episode was hysterical. I have to pause because I'm

(07:29):
laughing so hard.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Classic.

Speaker 5 (07:31):
I also listened to the episode this week with Nick
Groff and Bobo mentioned doing a collaboration with him for
Paranormal and Sasquatch, wondering if that ever happened, or if
there is a chance that it will ever happen. Love
you guys, keep it up. You guys have literally changed
my life. I'm grateful for everything you do.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
Well.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah, I was just asked this in the museum a
couple weeks ago, actually, and let me just say this
that I'm not sure there's any official correct way of
doing it. I think I believe that the correct way
to say plural bigfoots would be bigfoot, just like you know,
if I say there's thirty five thousand bear in Oregon. Yeah,

(08:16):
I use the singular as the plural as well, but
I might also say there's three bears down in that valley.
But you can also say three bear down in that valley.
So I think the official I think the correct maybe
not official, because you know who's the authority here on
this sort of thing, But I think that the correct
way would be bigfoot. Plural of bigfoot is probably bigfoot,

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but I don't I purposefully don't do that because one
of the worst of misunderstandings about sasquatches is that Bigfoot
is one individual and he has been seen from Florida
to British Columbia for hundreds of years. And of course
that's ridiculous. But you know, picture yourself as a civilian,

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you know, someone who knows nothing about sasquatches and bigfoots,
and like that kind of thing is not important to you,
and you've never given it two thoughts. You just think
of Bigfoot as this sort of cartoonish character depicted by
the media, because that's what the media feeds the public.
Unfortunately about the subject. You would think that, oh, well,
Bigfoot's ridiculous. All Bigfoot researchers are ridiculous because there's no

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way that one animal could be living for hundreds and
hundreds of years all over the continent. That doesn't make
any sense, like a Paul Bunyan sort of thing, you
know what I mean. So in order to help dispel
that myth, that ridiculous model of what is going on
with the big foot phenomenon, I purposefully say bigfoots. I

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don't say big feet, of course, because that would pluralize
the appendage the foot, the foot itself, foot feet, So
I say bigfoots, and of course sasquatches. That's much easier.
I prefer sasquatches. Actually, that took big foots, so that's
where that's where I'm coming from. So the proper is
probably bigfoot or there are you know, this family group

(10:09):
has three big foot in it, or this family group
has three sasquatch in it. But I say sasquatches and
I say big foots in order to help get rid
of that ridiculous notion that there's only one creature and
his name is bigfoot. So God, I hope that helped
answer some of that question. That's why I prefer sasquatches.

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John Green always stylized the plural as sasquatches with an
ees at the end of it. So I think if
John Green formalized it, then that's good enough for me.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
There you go, and here's Bobo, Bobo. Welcome man. How
you doing?

Speaker 4 (10:43):
All right? How's it going with you guys? All right?

Speaker 2 (10:46):
All right, just kind of plugging along, man, plugging along
in life, getting ready for things. Yeah, well, Bob, did
you get a chance to listen to that voicemail?

Speaker 4 (10:53):
Yeah, blew me away. That's there's some mighty high praise
in there. And then as far as the Bob Can thing,
I don't remember making anything. I haven't seen that episode
in shoot ten years or something, but I was probably
making faces like because he just sucked at it. I
guess yeah, CLIPI that we fill those behind the scenes episodes.
They only showed him like one time, like after the

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show is a special, like at like eleven o'clock at
night at a Sunday, and almost no one saw. But
we had a great behind the scenes with Bobcat. I
kind of got off on the wrong foot with him,
but we ended up the advities that what it's all
said and done. He's a great dude. He's hilarious, he's funny.
He's funny, like I just I hated his whole Police
Academy character, that whole like that whole thing, like I

(11:37):
couldn't stand it. He was like my least favorite comic.
And then I found out what a study was. I
was like, man, this guy's he's a badass. And as
far as Nick m Nick Roth thing, he ended up
sending a new contract for something else and he went
like he was fully busy, and then he had a
new baby and the timing wasn't good. It didn't work out.
I don't know, maybe in the future maybe I don't know,

(11:59):
it's they're kind of that'd be kind of it could work.
It could definitely work.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
But it like it kind of KOOKI we live in
a kookie world over here.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
I think I think the I think like the ghost
people would be like, you know, like they'd be on
that squatch on the BRN everything's a squatch thing or
like everything's a ghost when it's a squatch or you
know what I mean, Like, yeah, who knows how it'd go,
you know, like it'd be interesting. I think it'd be fine,
but I don't know how productive it would be. I think,
what do you think limally kind of mixing like oil
and water.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah, I don't, I don't. I think the further away
bigfoot stays and bigfooters stay from paranormal stuff, probably the better,
I would think, the better for sasquatches at least. Now,
if you were just brought on to go ghost hunting
or something like that, that's different, or if he was
brought on to go bigfooting. I don't know. I don't know,
because a lot of the paranormal people think the ghost
folks that think that bigfoot is paranormal in some sort

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of way, and they'd be looking.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
Right right right, because they're paranormalists.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's that's what they know.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Of course.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
You know, it's kind of like when when I watched
when I watched Hellier, you know, Greg and Dana.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
Knwkirk's thing, right, I was thinking of that.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah, And they were out there on that porch and
if you remember this episode where they were out on
the porch in Kentucky somewhere looking for goblins or whatever
ridiculous thing they were after out there, and they had
knocks from the woods, and they heard stuff walking around
sounded like on two legs. They had pebbles being thrown
at them while on the porch, and what did they do?

(13:24):
I think it was Dana, but I could be wrong.
They put on the god helmet, that's what they called it,
where they put earphones on that pumpy white noise or
you know, random radio signals or whatever, and they covered
their eyes. They basically shut down all of their senses
so they couldn't observe the sasquatch because they wanted paranormal
stuff to happen. And I was just so just like

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what you had, probably had a real sasquatch right there,
and you covered your eyes and ears to And of
course when I saw them, Greg and Dan are my friends.
I really really like them a lot. You know, they're wonderful,
wonderful people. So when I saw them one of these
gigs that we were doing together, I heckled him and said,
what are you doing? You could you might have been
able to see it or photo are you had cameras there,

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you had night vision? But no, you covered your eyes
and your ears. And they were laughing and they thought
it was funny.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
Like the monkeys, the three monkeys see no squats, hear
no squatch?

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yeah, like yeah, I love them though they were just
at the museum a couple of weeks or about a
month ago and now I guess or maybe October. No,
it was October is Halloween. Actually they before Halloween.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
Yeah, I was just kind of I was kicking around
with Nick more just because like I enjoy hanging out
them so much. He's such a fun dude and cool
and funny. And I was like, they were talking about
like these places and he goes like, and you know,
like that there's definitely squatches there, and I was like, yeah,
you know, we could. Then. I think it was Lee
and Jennifer's idea that creepy people our managers because we
had the same managers, and I think it was their

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idea more at first, and I was like, I was like,
that could be cool, you know, I was all, you know,
then Nick got busy. I was I was like, yeah,
maybe it's not the best idea, but people would have
liked it. I know that.

Speaker 6 (15:02):
Oh yeah, yeah, stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond
with Cliff and Bogo. We'll be right back after these messages.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
So that was the one and only voicemail. But we
can move on to the written questions. And I pulled
this one up because it was a lovely sentiment in it.
But also we get questions of this nature very often,
and I don't think we've ever outlined this specifically on
the show, so it might be good for future inquiries too.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
Would you like to read it, Bobo?

Speaker 4 (15:33):
Sure? Nicole message on Nicole. The format of that says
Nicole message, It says name Nicole message. She writes, Hey, guys,
We've been a fan of the show for a long
time and have had the roughest last two years that
you could ever imagine. You guys are always a considerate,
a consistent safe place for us, and we appreciate you
guys so much. Is there any way to pay for

(15:55):
a meet and greet with you conferences?

Speaker 6 (15:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (15:59):
I mean that that's the only way you can pay.
Are you going to come to the museum and meet me?
I mean that's an option too. I suppose, depending on
where you live, you may have to pay to do that.
I'm not sure, you know. Right now, I'm covering weekends
at the museum until where we hire a new employee,
whenever that is. But even when we hire the new employee,
and I don't technically have to cover hours any longer,
you know. I don't have a true schedule, and my

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employees are covering all the shifts. I'm still at the
museum probably three to six days a week for a
couple hours. You know, I'm there all the time doing something,
dropping by and checking this and that, or you know
that kind of thing. So hit and miss at the
museum is the best way to catch me, or at
a conference where you know I'm going.

Speaker 4 (16:38):
To be Yeah, I'm going to do it. I'm looking
to do a few tours this summer, like a few expeditions,
so if you sign up for one of those, but
that's that's a lot more expensive than a conference.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
And once those get lined up, we'll post that link.
And I have to make that caveat because every time
you mentioned something like that, but what we get emails
for moments and people like where can I sign up
for Bobo's expedition.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
Yeah, I'm gonna do it with prut North Georgia. I
tell you that, pru it.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
That is a frequently asked question, like some version of that.
But Bobo is on cameo if you wanted a personalized message,
So I will, for the third time put Bobo's cameo
link in the show. Notes for you, dude.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
When you put that in last time, Pruit, I got
so many of you, I was having trouble keeping up.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
We have tens of thousands of listeners. Man.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
Yeah, it was great. I'm not complaining. I'm saying that
was awesome. I got a sore throat from doing on
the other day. These guys they I messed up their
first one, and then they they I redid it. They
liked it, but they wanted a bigfoot, like a full
like ohioh. And I was like, I can't thrash my
You gotta pay a lot more than twenty bucks for
me to thrash my lungs, right. It hurts my throat

(17:45):
for hurts for weeks, you know, I can't talk right.
I'm like, yeah, these that costs a lot more. You know,
that's for TV stuff or something like that. I busted
went out. I felt, you know, like with your throat.
You guys both song it's like that you push it
too far, just like you feel it just that whatever.
I don't know how to explain it, but you get

(18:06):
that little pain come in like you just know you
strange it a little too much.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
Starts sounding like Bobby Brady.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yeah, I get that in the field, Like if I
if I'm out for a week and I'm howling like
on a nightly basis by like you know, night five,
night six, I'm like, oh, yeah, Well, here is the
next written question. And it's specifically for Cliff, but I
think we can all probably like weigh in on this

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because it's a it's a good question, and it's a pragmatic.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah, And the question comes from Paolo Tourette. Cliff, when
you're logging footprints at the Blueberry Bog or Easter Island,
et cetera, do you log the directions of travel and
create vectors to see if any potential cross crossover points
crop up?

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, I do, actually, yeah yeah. When I when I'm
really in there documenting well and stuff, I take GPS coordinates,
I take I take a direction to travel. I take
five six seven photographs. I take a video if I can,
I take a scan, I take a cast. I do
everything I can think of basically, you know, I write

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down the measurements and that sort of thing. I don't
always do it because if there's a trackway, I might
just take the general direction of the trackway. Like for example,
I did some documentation. Last June, I think it was
Shane Corson and I went out together to one of
our new locations, and that's not any it's not the Bog,
it's not it's not Easter Island or anything. We call

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it the Outer Rim because it's so far away and
it takes a long time to get down there. But
but there's a there's some sasquatches there, you know, and
we we we found quite a few tracks. I think
we came back with eight tracks in one day, eight prints,
eight casts, I should say casts, and one of the
trackways came up out of the out of the river
valley below and so I went back like a week

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later with with my employee Dave and his brother, and
we documented that trackway and I took all that sort
of stuff. But you know, after about twenty thirty tracks,
they're all going the same way, like, what are you doing?

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Really?

Speaker 2 (20:10):
You know they changed slightly here and there, but yeah, yeah,
I do take direction to travel, and that's actually how
for the museum members. They might remember a video that
I released, I think it was last June, where Melissa,
my wife, casts her very very first footprint ever. You know,
she's seen him in the ground before a couple of

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them in the ground. But this is a really good one.
So I brought her out. We found it, and then
like a week later I brought Melissa out for a
date and we went out there and she cast it.
That's how we found That's how we found that one.
Because the stuff at the outer rim they seem to
have been coming out of one river valley going up
to a bog area, and in general most of the

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most of the footprints were kind of tending that direction. Now,
of course, when they came up out it the river valley,
there was this old abandoned logging road, which is what
we were walking. They walked up and down the road.
They were all over that place, you know, so that
it wouldn't make you know, if you took all the
directions of every single one of those prints, I'm not
sure it would really yield much information because of the

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way these things forage, near as I can figure, you know,
it seems like they go to an area, then they
spread out in that area, and then they keep on
going the same general direction, you know, So some of
the data might just be like not junk data, but
kind of white noise in a way, you know. But
in general, I saw the tendency, the trend of the
direction of travel of this particular group, and I knew

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I was finding them up by the swamp, and I
knew they were coming out of the river valley below.
So I just kind of, you know, connected the dots
and I went up and over the ridge that's around
this particular swamp, you know, and that's where we found
the track, the tracks actually that Melissa and I worked on.

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I mean, she casts the print, but we backtrack that
thing and it came down off the ridge just like
we expected, and we probably found another fifteen or twenty.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
It was nice. It was a good date.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
You know.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
We're just sitting on the log, enjoying remote wilderness essentially,
sitting there and like even Melissa was like she's sitting
there on the log, chilling and enjoying the beautiful view.
And she goes, oh, yeah, there's one right there. I
can see it from here, so there's another one behind it.
It's like, yeah, you just pick these things out. It's
pretty amazing. It's pretty amazing when you when you start
learning about what you're looking for, that you know it

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stands out more, which is true.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
Of everything.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
You know, absolutely everything.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
You know.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Once you start learning about something and you know what
you're looking for and what there is, then you can
start seeing it. But if you're unaware of it, you're
not going to see it. But yeah, I absolutely do that.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
I've seen individuals even take like compass bearings, like shooting
in asthmuth from like heel to toe to indicate direction.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
That's exactly what I do, right, Yeah, like two hundred
and eighty degrees, you know that kind of thing. Yeah,
that's exactly what I do.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Excellent, all right, let's roll on to the next question.
There it is.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
Jeremy led Joyce. Hey, guys, I was wondering if you
have an idea of a sasquatch's home range and why
they may be more active at certain times of a year.
I had an incident at our hunting camp, and other
people in the area have had stuff happen that was
reported the BFRO and on Big Foot Mapping project. This
one or group, not sure over the year, seems to
be in a ten mile radius. Thanks guys. Yeah, you

(23:28):
got that whole little study you guys out of Oklahoma.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Well there's that.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
But you know, when you're talking about the home range
of an animal, it's entirely dependent on the environment in
which that animal resides. And so the example that I
often use would be black bears, because that's a pretty
analogous mammal, being that they're large, generalized dominiv wares. So
if you're looking at something like southern Appalachia, especially the
temperate rainforest portion of it's about one hundred and thirty
five thousand square miles. The average home range of the

(23:55):
average adult male black bear in that part of southern
Apple Aatcha is roughly sixteen to eighteen square miles. If
you take that same sized bear, you know, the average
adult male black bear, and you go up somewhere like Pennsylvania,
Studies there showed that they have a home range more
into like thirty five square miles. And that's still Appalachia,
that's still eastern deciduous forest. But given the density of

(24:18):
food resources and how they're distributed, it takes thirty five
square miles of that Appalachian forest to provide the same
amount of food that only sixteen to eighteen square miles
of Southern Appalachia forest provides. And then you can transpose
that to like the inner Mountain West, where their ranges
are significantly larger because the resources are more distributed. So

(24:39):
in places like that they might be anywhere from like
seventy five to one hundred square miles. In the Pacific Northwest,
it could be anywhere from fifty to seventy five square miles.
We're talking about essentially the same animal requiring vastly different
spans of geographic space in order to sustain itself. So
it would first depend on like, well, are these sasquatches
in southern apple Lata or the Pacific Northwest or the

(25:01):
Washitas or the Rockies or whatever the case may be.
So there's probably some rough estimate that you could make.
Another interesting thing about the mammalian caloric intake needs is
that it doesn't scale linearly with size, so it's not
a one to one relationship. Now that's true within a
given species. So for example, if you had a species

(25:23):
of monkey with a wide variety of size range, one
individual weighing one hundred pounds would need less space than
two individuals weighing fifty pounds to feed itself versus to
feed themselves. So there's a whole lot of factors you
have to take in here. So with Sasquatches, you could say, well,
they're roughly three to four times the mass of a
black bear. Does that mean they need roughly three to

(25:44):
four times the home range? Probably not, because again it
doesn't scale linearly, so it really just depends. I mean,
the ten mile radius is a pretty large area if
you're talking about square mileage. I think if you're looking
at something like seventy to eighty square miles, that's only
I think like a four point five or four point
six mile radius from a center point. So it really
just depends, and I don't think any of us know.

(26:06):
All we could say is that they're probably pretty large.
I do think seventy to eighty square miles would be
on the small end, and that would be in places
like southern Appalachia or the Washutaw's extremely rich environments. You
could call that a liberal estimate, And the reason I
would say it's liberal rather than conservative is because the
smaller the home range, the more ranges can fit in
a given area, so the larger the population could be.

(26:28):
So that's a pretty liberal gas because you could fit
a lot of Sasquatches into southern Apalachia if each individual
of a given age and sex and size only needs
seventy to eighty square miles, but who knows, because that
will also differ radically between the sexes. Going back to
black bears in Appalachia, the males need sixteen to eighteen
square miles, the females need four to six square miles.

(26:51):
Siberian tigers, the males usually cover somewhere around fifteen hundred
square kilometers and the females cover about four hundred square kilometers.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
So there's that disparity too. So that's a.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Long winded way of saying nobody knows, but it's it's
probably pretty large. And a ten mile radius is a
pretty large area. So but if you're in a place
that you've had activity and others have to, I'd say
you're in the right spot, and that's all that matters.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Yeah, And from the place where you are now, I
mean wherever that is, you've got to start casting footprints
and finding the footprints and trying to figure out which
animals are there and which animals are consistently there. Because again,
our areas, you know, like I've got three or four
areas that I'm working, and I don't think there's a
lot of overlap in the sasquatches in there, you know,

(27:35):
which is interesting to me because I'm trying to nail
down how big their range is and with their social structure.
That's those are the questions that I find interesting. So
that's what I'm working on. And you got to You've
got to look for the footprints. You got to cast
them because you're going to see patterns in them and
you can start piecing together. Are these the same individuals?
Is this a family group? That kind of thing. It's

(27:56):
not easy to do. It takes a lot of time
and a lot of dedication and a lot of consistency.
I go. I mean I say it all the time.
I go every single week. You know, this week I
don't even have time to go because I'm building that
thing in the barn I was talking about earlier in
this episode. So on Thursday when I when I go,
I have to wake up a couple hours before daylight

(28:18):
to get out there because I you know, my buddy
who's helping me build this thing out out in the
barn is going to be over atten noon. So I
got to get out there and get back by noon,
so that the consistency has to be there. You know,
in my opinion, if you really want to find tracks,
you got it. You got to get out there. And
if you want to learn about their territory range, you
have to look at the footprints, because how do you

(28:39):
know which ones are there? Citing reports don't tell you
very much. They tell you that the animals are present,
but you got to get footprints, because we can't just
go ahead and look at a sasquatch and say, oh,
that's the same one I saw last week. But you
can do that with footprints. You can do that with
footprints once you start getting familiar with them. And maybe

(29:00):
it's not one hundred percent, you know, but then I
talk about it all the time. In our spot Easter Island,
we very often find, very often find a twelve inch
which I now I know is eleven and a half
because I got a couple of cli prints, but a
twelve inch individual and a fourteen inch individual, and we
almost and by the way, the fourteen is also a
thirteen and a half in reality, because again we got
a clearer print now. But we're usually sixty seventy percent

(29:26):
of the time find those two animals associated with each other,
Like maybe we'll find the twelve inch and then a
couple hundred yards down the same road, we'll find the
fourteen like that kind of stuff, sometimes even right together.
Over at the outer rim that I was mentioning earlier,
we have another fourteen, and we have an eight eight

(29:47):
or nine inch footprint somewhere in there, so it's almost
certainly a different animal. And of course the big males
almost nothing. We almost never find their footprints, which is
really interesting. I have found what I considered to be
the male at East t Island. I found it this
past fall. It's about fifteen fifteen and a half inches.

(30:07):
Could there be more than one fourteen inch? Absolutely there
absolutely could, But for now there's enough data to kind
of hobble together a rough hypothesis that is the same
female and the same juvenile wandering around together, and until
there's a reason to think otherwise. You know, I think
that's a reasonable gas, which is all I'm trying to

(30:29):
do at this point. But now that you have an
area of interest, keep going back, and my God, start
looking for footprints.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
It's the most important.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Thing you can do to learn about the species. The
single most important thing is to look for footprints.

Speaker 6 (30:47):
Stay tuned for more bigfoot and beyond with Cliff and Bobo.
We'll be right back after these messages.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
This question comes from Gear White, and Gary asks high Cliff,
how would I know if I hear a scream that
isn't you, Bobo or Moneymaker.

Speaker 4 (31:07):
Associated smells yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Exactly, If it smells terrible, then it's probably one of us.

Speaker 6 (31:13):
You know.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
This brings up a good point actually, something to talk
about here about this because it sounds like he's kind
of jesting, you know, which is fine. I don't mind
it a bit because obviously it probably wouldn't be any
of us, but sasquatches sound like people, you know. Just
recently on the on the membership of the museum, I
posted a video. It's kind of interesting. I shared it

(31:34):
with Matt prut Bobo. I don't know if I sent
it to you or not. This guy that in Tennessee
that goes around or is Kentucky and he goes and
he looks around for mind shafts and films and he's
just like this YouTube guy. That's what he likes to do.
And he's little empire on it, you know, and it's
kind of cool. It's kind of the same sort of
thing I would love to do in the woods if
I was wandering around. But he's out there alone doing

(31:55):
the thing, or presumably he's out there alone. I mean,
his other videos seem to be alone. So he's out
there poking around and and he's looking inside this this
barred up mind shaft. You know, Oh, this would be
kind of cool and blah blah blah. And behind them
is a noise and it's it's either a sasquatch or
a human. There's it sounds like a person, like ah,

(32:15):
something like that. And you know, I put it out
for the members of the NABC there and then they
listen to it and and they're chiming in. You know,
that's a person, that's not a person. That's definitely a sasquatch.
That's definitely a person, and that's a bird. And you know,
everybody's opinion that everybody enjoys, you know, kind of chiming
in like that. It's astonishing, you know, because I think

(32:35):
it's fair to say that all of us here, at
least on on on the podcast here, all of us
have heard sasquatches vocalized kind of a lot. I mean,
kind of I'd be hard to put a number on it,
but you know, even at like, you know, I heard
I've heard them many many times outside of finding Bigfoot
and finding Bigfoot, that was basically the whole show is
trying to hear them vocalize, and we were successful, you know,
like half the time maybe or something like that.

Speaker 4 (32:57):
The microphones weren't so successful, but are pretty Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
So we've heard them kind of a lot, you know,
and it's astonishing how similar they can sound to human beings.
I've heard them yell hey, I've heard them all. Oh,
they sound like people, and it makes sense because they're
built like people, you know, they they would probably have

(33:23):
a very similar you know, vocal apparatus. Yeah, they because
and I think that you know, with Bobo, Matt and
I are doing all that kind of stuff, you know,
howling and screaming and doing our thing out there, it
gives the impression that that's the only sounds they make.
Now they don't. They can sound a lot like indistinguishable

(33:45):
from people, and that's just outside of their mimicry that
I'm confident that they do, where they can imitate people's
voices or chainsaws or car door slamming and all that stuff.
They sound so much like people. It's just astonishing sometimes.
So although if you did hear Bobo or me or
money Maker in the woods and you're say in, I

(34:05):
don't know Texas or you know Kentucky, that's not us.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Yeah, I do think it's important to categorize the sounds
that uniquely identify them as sasquatches, sounds that just humans
don't or very often just can't produce. Because anything that
is human, like you will all unless you see the
thing that produced that, you will always be left, you know,
agonizing on whether or not that was a person or
a sasquatch, you know, And it's it's a tricky thing.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
I've had a number.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
Of those experiences where to this day, and some of
them were, you know, eighteen years ago, where I'm like, god,
what was that?

Speaker 3 (34:38):
You know? So it is a frustrating thing.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
All right, Well should we hop to the next question then?

Speaker 3 (34:44):
I think, so there we go.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
From Connie Barkin, I'd really love to get your take
on the link between code's and bigfoot I've stiled upon
some festing theory suggesting that bigfoots may actually utilize coadies
for hunting, almost as if they've trained them to be
their hunting partners. As always keep it squatchy. Yeah, we've
we've kicked this around. I've always thought like maybe they

(35:06):
could grab it, you know, kyot puppy and you know,
have it bond to them and you know, kind of cooperate.
But then I talk to other people say no, they
absolutely will kill and eat coyotes, and other people say,
well they Some people say that the kyotes are scavenging
from the big pitchers. Other people think that the bigfoots
are going and stealing deer kills from the coyotes. So

(35:26):
there's there's not one train of thought on that, and
like no one, no one knows for sure. But the
guy Fred and Alaska with the Subarctic Alaska Sasquatch, he's
got like ten or twelve reports people saying they've seen
wolves and bigfoots like cooperatively hunting like caribou and moose
and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
I always wondered if sasquatch has preyed upon coyotes. And
what really started that train of thought for me was,
you know, there there always seemed to be some sort
of like symbiosis that people had floated or some sort
of like connection beyond just being like you know, sympatrick
in these environments, you know, occurring in the same environments
at the same time. But when we had Ken Walker on,

(36:06):
he told the story about the two brothers that the
trappers that had that massive trapping lease on Crown Land
in Canada. They talked about certain traps being raided. You know,
they were trying to catch fur bearing animals, not only
because their passion was trapping, but you know certain animals
or they have a certain monetary value, and these traps
were getting raided consistently, and so they would place out

(36:29):
coyote carcasses, according to Ken to sort of be here's
something else that you can come raid, you know, rather
than breaking our traps and taking these more I guess
precious animals, here's an alternative. And they said that once
that started, the coyotes would always be taken. They'd find
them partially consumed, as if that was a sought after
food resource. And if you've ever been out in the field,

(36:51):
I know you guys have, but to the listeners, if
you've ever been out in the field and done in Ohio,
how if there's coyotes within earshot, they'll respond in seconds.
And so if I was a coyote hunter, I would
just go out and how like a sasquatch figure out
where the coyotes are and then go in that direction,
and so so they wouldn't be hard to find. They
might make for an easy meal. You know, there's a
lot of them, so they're plentiful. They're ubiquitous across all

(37:14):
of North America pretty much, and they're very, very numerous,
and so I wonder if that's part of it. It's
at least worth thinking about that they prey on those things.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Oh, anything's on the menu. Man, If they're eating skunks
and possums, like coyotes are probably a delicacy. Everybody's so
hyper focused on deer as the prey item for sasquatch,
And yeah, sure, I think that might be the choice
of a sasquatch if they had to choose. But at
the end of the day, I think anything's on the menu.
And look at the way they're built, and look at

(37:44):
how good they are at catching things and how fast
they can move. But everything I was aloso to look
how large they are, they would have to utilize any
sort of meat. Essentially, I think everything from caterpillars and
insects to you know, black bear. If they can get it,
and there's a small handful of reports that strongly suggests
they hunt black bear, So why not coyotes, you know,

(38:05):
And of course I'm a big fan of the idea
that sasquatches are also power scavenging, which is a known
hominin strategy. Hominins did that, and of course nowadays other
animals do it too, you know, lions do it, and
all that sort of stuff with power scavenging is waiting
for other animals to do the hard work of killing
it and bringing it down, and then you just kind

(38:26):
of waltz in and push the little guys away and
take what you want and leave the rest of the
kill to the people who actually earned it, the animals
that actually earned it. That's power scavenging. So I think
sasquatches would definitely do that because being as smart as
they are, they will not expend more calories than necessary
in order to obtain their own calories.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
So it's also referred to as klepto parasitism ooh, because
they're stealing, you know, like a kleptomaniac. They're stealing the
kills of other animals. And there's a number of animals
that do practice a kleptoparas. Oh yeah, I think coyotes.
You know, they are omnivorous and they will bring down prey.

(39:06):
I mean, they're in the order of Carnivora, but that's
a dentition based order, same reason that pandas are in
the order of Carnivora, even though they're bamboo specialists. But
because of the dentition, they're in that order. But I
don't know how often coyotes are making significant kills. I'm
sure we could look that up, but it's not like
they're making deer kills frequently enough that a sasquatch could

(39:29):
rely solely on that versus, you know, if it wants food,
it's probably easier to get a coyote than.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
To wait for them to get the food for them. Okay.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
And then this question here, which is the last of
our written questions, by the way, comes from Howard Williams,
and Howard asks, Hi, guys, love your show. This is
a question about the societal value of mysterious creatures. Why
does this need for mystery persist in human cultures? Also,
what are the implications the mystery is solved. I think

(40:02):
we probably all agree it would not be good for Bigfoot.
But would it be good for us to lose the mystery?
My gut says that the loss would surprise us and
the world would be a little more intolerable. Please keep
up the good work and always keep it squatchy.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
I think that once you solve the mystery of whether
or not sasquatches exist, there's an indefinite number of new
mysteries about sasquatches that arise, and those answers are not
going to come much faster, and they're not going to
come much easier than they already have. And so some
of these questions that will arise after recognition will still

(40:41):
take decades to answer and to answer fully to the
satisfaction of scientists and academics and to society for that matter.
And so this, I think this is something we've all
encountered many many times as like, oh, what's the thing solved?
You won't have anything to do, like yeah, right, you know,
you could just imagine a handful of questions, like how

(41:02):
large is their home range? Like we just found out, okay,
well you get a rough estimate, Well, how large is
their home range in southern apple Achoe? What about central
Apple Acho? What about the rockies, you know, all the
places I just mentioned in response to the previous question,
how do they form social units? What's their gestation period,
what's their developmental period? When do they separate from their parents?

(41:24):
These things, they're not going to come easily. We won't
have all those answers. I bet we won't even have
all those answers in the first three decades of them
being discovered. I mean, we just covered in the last episode,
you know, a mysterious quote unquote mysterious new behavior just
now being documented in squirrels, you know, the North American squirrel,
the most common thing you could encounter out in the wild,

(41:45):
and we're still making new discoveries about them. And so
imagine the treasure trove, the bottomless well of information that
these things could give us. It's really it's unfathomable. We'll
never lose that.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
And there's no shortage of mysteries outside the Bigfoot thing either,
you know, whether you're looking at like non terrestrial life
or you know, extraterrestrial life or inter dimensional things, or
just like the world abounds with mystery, you know, and
the Bigfoot is Bigfoot thing is just one of them,
just one of many, many, many, things you know, and

(42:19):
of course a lot of the stuff that you know
that people are chasing around the whole in search of
style stuff. There's ridiculous nonsense for the most part, but
that's that's just a lot of fun, you know, the
ancient alien kind of nonsense that's on TV and everything
that's us fun to think about, but not a whole
lot of people really really take it seriously. But they're
and outside of those mysteries, it's great that there's so

(42:41):
many cool things like the I was just reading this
past week about how some real progress has been made
uniting quantum physics and Einsteinian you know, relativistic physics. Like
that's great, that's awesome. That's been they've been chasing that
for you know, eighty years, one hundred years or something
like that. You know, not a physicists, I just like
the subject. So there's so much real mystery grounded in

(43:05):
science that there's always going to be something to push
forward into. I think we lose sight of this. We
as a culture, we as a species, lose.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
Sight of this.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
We are in our infancy of understanding the world at
this point. Remember germs, for example, germs were kind of
discovered in the late eighteen hundreds. That's like one hundred
and twenty one hundred fifty years ago. We didn't know
about germs. You know, no one in seventeen hundred had

(43:35):
heard dinosaurs, for example. You know, we don't know much,
but we think we're all fancy because everybody's got a
cell phone in their pocket and we think that's pretty cool.
And you know, science is really really good at inventing
bubbles and toys, so we think we're all that. But
we have such limited understanding of the way things work

(43:55):
and how things piece together. We almost know nothing. But
we've come so far since like the steam engine, you know,
or whatever, whatever the wheel, you know, whatever tool you
want to put out in the printing press, whatever the
big milestones are. You know, we've come so far from
those in our own very limited scope of time, you know,

(44:16):
because we live like seventy eighty years. We're done and
we check out and we leave and whatever, and that's
a blink of an eye. But we think we've come
so far because as a couple of generations to go,
we practically know nothing compared to where we're gonna be
an eight hundred years or something like that if if
our species even survives that long, we're still in our

(44:38):
infancy of understanding the universe. There is no shortage of
wonder and beauty in the universe.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
We don't even understand ourselves. There's nothing more mysterious than
the totality of the mind, the psyche, and especially the
nature of consciousness. We are ourselves a nearly unsolvable mystery.
And so yeah, we'll always be women in mystery, and
I'm still trying to solve the mystery that is our
good man. Bobo definitely a mysterious character too.

Speaker 6 (45:10):
Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and
Bobo will be right back after these messages.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
Well, you know, he did specifically ask about the societal
value of mysterious creatures, though.

Speaker 4 (45:27):
I think it's the way to teach lessons, right, Like
myths and lore like is a good way to impart
things that children teach them lessons, you know, about safety
or whatever.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
You know, it's so complicated that you know, there are
elements of myth that are moral lessons, you know, and
they might be even lesser than moral lessons. They might
just be to your point, like encoded information that's necessary
to know about the environment that you live in and
the living inhabitants of that environment, and how to respond
to them, and how to interact with them or how

(45:58):
to avoid them. In many cases, in other elements, mythological
characters are characterized or personified descriptions phenomenological descriptions of nature itself,
whether that's natural events. Think about all the personifications of
thunder and lightning as a phenomena, for example, being given
some agency or being the product of some conscious agent

(46:20):
that's exerting its will. I mean, there's no simple explanation
for what myth is and where it comes from, because
it applies to such a range of things. But because
you know, we're persons, you know, we tend to see
other phenomena as personified, and so we we represent those
phenomena as characters. And those characters have their own philosophies,

(46:42):
they have their own views, they have their own wills,
their own perceptions, et cetera. You know, if you think
about the nature of the storm, for example, and well,
how do you character what does the storm want? Well,
the objective reality would tell you that, like, the storm
has no desire and no moral aim. But in order
to describe the experience of the storm. In a story,

(47:02):
you personify it, so those things happen. There's also mythological
characters that are rooted in reality that might have been
based on living people, that as time marches on, those
people get mythologized and represented as mythological characters even though
they had a rooting in reality. You know, there's characters
from the twentieth century that are mythologized that have a
whole host of like apocryphal stories about them that people

(47:26):
believe that are demonstrably not true. But certain living individuals,
you know, are great receptacles for myths, so we're apt
to believe such things about them, that they had certain capabilities,
or that they accomplished certain things, or whatever the case
may be. And so the societal value is that it
provides information across a host of different domains that because

(47:50):
it's metaphorical in nature, it's more easily accessible because not
only is it metaphorical, but it's delivered in the form
of a story, a narrative, and you know narratives, we're
we're storytelling creatures. There's a great book by a guy
named Jonathan Gottschalk called The Storytelling Animal.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
That's absolute must read.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
It's one of my favorite books I've read in the
last five years, I would say, And people will remember
information with an higher degree of accuracy if it's delivered
to them in the form of a story then merely
propositions or like a bullet point list of facts. And
you have to think too. The other value of myths
and the creatures, you know, the personified characters within them,

(48:28):
is that if you get intimately familiar with the canon
of myths, that teach that whole host of lessons. Like
you don't have enough time in one lifespan to learn
all these things and figure them out for yourself. You'll
die in the process because you'll make too many errors.
But if you develop an intimate familiarity with the cannon
of myths and the characters within them, then you basically

(48:52):
have a guide book, you know, a cultural guidebook for
how to deal with certain situations. Knowing these myths and
understanding those character and their motivations and their own sort
of like philosophies, provides all that. So the value is
limitless when we're talking about that mysterious creatures happen to
be one manifestation, whether or not you know, even if

(49:13):
such creatures exist in the environment, they get borrowed and
used to be a receptacle for the mythological motif. In
the same way that the bear has lessons to tell,
or the raven, or the coyote or the tiger. Doesn't
mean that the animal is as described by the myth,
And it doesn't mean that because it's a myth, that
the animal doesn't exist. It's just that you need receptacles
to hang these motifs or tropes on, and sasquatches and

(49:37):
other mysterious creatures make great receptacles for that, among other things.

Speaker 4 (49:42):
What the hell did you just say?

Speaker 3 (49:44):
I'm ranting again.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Sorry, Now, Well, when we started talking about things that
we're super stoked about, we keep on going.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
Man, that's we love it.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
I think the world would get a lot more exciting
if sasquatches were definitely proven to exist, don't you.

Speaker 4 (49:59):
I think so for sure? Yes, because the missy is
not solved and the missy is just wide open.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
Now, yeah, there's not gonna be a time where my
curiosity is satisfied about the sasquat.

Speaker 4 (50:09):
Yeah. We still watch documentaries on Great Whites. I mean
they're finding out new stuff. Yeah, but I mean, it
still has a lot of big fishes swimming around. You know,
we watched I'll watch hours of that stuff every summer
when Sharky comes out.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Now, it seems to me that if bigfoots were discovered today,
that's when the fun starts, you know that that's where
we actually start making some real progress.

Speaker 4 (50:30):
I guess that wraps it up for this week and
anything an it's oh, you know, I got something I
need to add my buddies on the Chamber of Commerce
up in Willacirk, California, where the big Foot Museum is
and you know, the original hotspot of Bigfoot phenomena, there's
the famous Jim McClaren statue that most of you are
familiar with, the Bigfoot statue. Cardot's real blockie. So one

(50:51):
that looks it's the big silt I saw for my
first say, looked a lot like that. It was that
it's rotting out again. They replaced the feet a few
years ago, but the whole thing has got to be replaced.
They're looking for someone a they're looking for someone that
might donate a log that's big enough to this, you know,
section of a log to carve a new Bigfoot and
they're also seeing it. There's anyone that's willing to carve it,

(51:14):
and they got real limited budget. They're looking for donations.
People can write it off whatever. But yeah, if they're
interested in either donating the piece of wood or carving it,
you can contact Bigfoot Cannabis in Willow Creek, California.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
That's why I findally can put in the show notes too.

Speaker 4 (51:35):
Okay, cool, Yeah, my buddy Callin owns Bigfoot Cannabis up there.
I was just consultant for designing the bigfoot gummies he
has for the bigfoot shape gums because he had like
a human foot. I was like, no, dude, you got
to do it like that. And so he's it's more
of a classic big foot, you know, full heel, more
straight or toes across.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
It's the most authentic bigfoot gummy in the cannabis market
for foot.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
Yes, but morphology.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
Good job, Bobo, good job.

Speaker 4 (52:05):
Thank you doing what I can do what I can.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
I was gonna say yet another epic contribution of Bobo
to the realm of sasquatchery.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Talk about a mythological man who's still alive.

Speaker 3 (52:17):
There he is, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
That's I kind of was hinting at that, is that
there are people who are so large in life that
like myths just fit them perfectly, and they get mythologized
and people just believe it, you know, because like, why
wouldn't you.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
Of course he's capable of that. Of course he's Bobo
is definitely one of those people.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
I don't know that I know anyone else in real
life who is that way, but Bobo's definitely the one.

Speaker 4 (52:41):
I don't know what you're talking about, but.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
Oh, that's part of your charm.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
Man. You have no idea of the magic that you spind.

Speaker 4 (52:49):
You're right, I don't see I don't see magic. I
just see chaos and idiocy.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Now, your divine, your your endless line of divine accident
leads you, leads you in the right direction.

Speaker 4 (53:02):
There you go. Okay, folks, Well, that's it for another
week of Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff, Bobo and Matt,
and we appreciate you tuning in. We're gonna now join
our Patreon family for another episode that will come out
on Thursday. So until next week, y'all, keep it Squatchy.

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