J. Balvin

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Angie Martinez in Real Life podcast. Can we let it
rip with while we're recording please for a second. That's
just it, just the vibe, it's just um all right.
Once we are connected, I feel hecked that level deeply

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in my soul. Oh my god, I love her, baby Dad,

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You're ready. It's so good it we could just say
the song that I want to my friends to put
in my funeral. I already told him, Really, this song player,

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what does it do to you everything? Because it's like
real life, it's like real Oh, it's so good. It's
so good. It's the best. Hector level got me through. Um.
I ran a marathon a few years ago. I thought
I was gonna die. I thought I thought it, no way,
can I finish it? But you did it and I

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finished it. Yeah. And his music definitely because it's the
spirit right, Absolutely, What does that song do to you?
What is that besides that you wanted at your funeral,
which is so weird. It depends. It depends how you
see life. But you know, he really speak for the world,
you know, and for the humans. It's not just about

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the artists. It's about that we all have. You know,
sometimes people see success and they think the life is perfect, right,
And it depends why you think is success right? People
think that successes like have money and be famous and
to me as now success because I have lived that

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what they say to success, But it's not to me.
You know, how you balance your life, how you with
your people, how you with your friends, how you with
on your spiritual level or religious level, you know respect
that to me, being successful it's like, you know, the
whole package. It's not just about one thing. So this guy,
the master director level, he talked about, yeah, you see them,

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I'm doing great, that I have all these women's and
how people pay to see me and I'll do it,
but they don't even ask about how I feel. And
they don't ask about if I'm dying inside of not
so on the way. You know, when I was growing
up as an artist, I just listened to that song.
I was like, why is he saying this? And they

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understood and were like he was so right. You know,
he was talking really facts about how an artist can feel,
but not even an artist, just life in general, humans, right,
human experience. Two people not ask you how you are
often enough, like if they really care about how feeling? Yeah,

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I just learned lately, you know, like let's say, like
a year ago and two years ago that I gotta
keep you know, my circle really tired. You know. I
thought that the world was so beautiful and colorful because
I was raised with an amazing family and amazing friends,
of courtroom mistakes and anything. But I never saw evil,

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you know, I never saw that part that it's people
that don't want you to do good, you know. And
since then I started closing a little bit, my heart
not being cold, and and I know there's just a
few people that really ask me how do I feel
as a human, you know, like how how are you?
How you really are you know, done? Just don't say

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because it makes part are you know, like really you
want to take us and be like how I'm a
feeling and I'm going to let you know, to be
my closest people. Of course. Well the good news is
that's all I care about, I know. But this is
different today, This is a different one. That is literally
all I care about now. Granted I'm I'm a fan.

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I think what you have done in your career and
how you have opened, you know, regged not just reggae done,
but just Latin music and general up to the world
and watching what you've done globally, all of those things
with brands, with you have all these records, first Latino
to do this and all of that is wow inspiring

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and yes to all of that, but also what's fascinating
to me is watching this entity that you are and
then meeting you in person. I don't know if you
remember when we met the first time. It wasn't in
the radio station though, No, it wasn't. It was an
event for I'm some Maga Latin magazine Latin women. Yes, yes, absolutely,
I remember when in the like in the rooftop, so

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we met and I had none of you and everything
you'd been doing. I was like, Wow, he's amazing. And
my mother, who never asked me for anything, she she
I took her with me to that event, and my
mother said I would really like to meet him. It's like,
oh my god, it's so weird. So I bro, I
was like, do you mind saying hello? And not only
did you say hello to her, but you sat with

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her and you talked to her, and you laughed with her,
and you kissed her on the forehead and you took
all these amazing and I just thought, what a beautiful
human being like and it wasn't for it was so genuine.
And I watched you in the room and so I
firsthand got to see you how you are and your
interaction with people. And then over the years I've watched
your career, I've seen you move and so the human
being that you have to be to be at the

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level that you are and still have that humbleness and
that like tell me if I'm wrong. You're almost like
a people pleaser, right, yeah, yeah, which it's not a
small thing. When people have been experienced of fame and success,
you have all this access, which usually creates like ego
or people who take things for granted, and you don't

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seem to have. I don't been affected by those things.
I don't maybe maybe yeah, maybe you get affected, but
you don't let it out, you know, like it's it's
your struggle. It's your bottle with your own self. You know.
It's like sometimes I have to bottle with my ego. Yeah,
you know, like I don't. I don't let it out,

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you know, I don't. I'm not with the people and
be like a screaming or something. I'm just like you
start to start like around my mind. I'm like, no, wait,
wait right, this is you know, is your mind playing
with you? You know. And the more you live and
the more you learn, you start watching like the simple
things or the most amation things, right like being healthy,

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being healthy, you know, things that we didn't like when
when I was growing up, I never tell about I
want to be healthy. Now I want to you know,
be able to big audis and have money and fame
and whatever. And then you see that that's cool, absolutely cool.
But being healthy, have mental peace in her piece, it's everything,
you know. I was really raised good, really raised. Like

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my mom was really nice to me. She's really nice
to me. She was being super real. It's a nice
thing to say about your mom to me. Yes, she was.
And she's been so real since day. Want you know,
And and she saw she always when I was a kid,
she knew I was gonna be an artist. I didn't
even know I was gonna be an artest. She was like,
you're gonna be an artest one day. You're gonna be
world wide globally know. And I'm like, mom, and what

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are you talking about? Let me do you know? Let
me go just to the school. And he fun and
one day she said, like the day you think you'll start,
you're gonna stop shining from me. That really hit me, like,
oh my god, Like so I cannot acknowledge this. You know,
sometimes you gotta die, you have those moments. But I'm

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going through right now. It is like am I the artist?
Or who am I? You know? Like who am? Like
Valvin versus exactly, And sometimes people just don't get it, like,
oh I get it, this isn't that, But it's honestly
it's we're the same person, of course, but you get
so caught up in work. And that's what I'm like
right now, I'm going to that. You're just like, how

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kind of start? You know? Balance? Not put all my
energy and all my passion and just one thing which
is in my nature. But what about family? What about hell? Dad?
I'm a dad now, you know. And and I'm learning.
He's only one year in a month, you know, and
so getting to know those new faces of my life. Um,

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I'm just learning. Honestly, I'm just learning. Isn't it fascinating
how you think when you're young you don't realize that
the learning thing happens for your whole life. Yeah, yeah,
you just then every day. I remember when I met
for real Williams one day he said like, I was,
I am and I'll be forever student. I was like, oh,

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you're right, like and yeah, the more you leave, the
more you learn, you know, if you open to learn. Yeah.
And even though sometimes we learn and we don't learn,
and we learn again and we can we foget up again.
And even at this time when I'm making it better,
and then you foget up way way bigger than it
used to. Yeah. But as soon as you're conscious that

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you know what's going on in your mind, it's gonna
be a way too yeah to fix it. So this
this section of my podcast, this chapter of my podcast
is like based around what I like to call um superpowers, Right,
so I think everybody who has I was just talking
about jay Z the other day with somebody with Joe Biden.

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We were talking about jay Z and some people can say, oh,
he wraps better than anybody else, that's his superpower. But
some people will be like, that has nothing, that's not
his superpower. What do you what if we're talking about
someone else that's not jay z superpower? What is it
he superpower is to oh inspiate. You know, he inspired

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the world. He goes beyond music, and I think that's
the beautiful thing about jay Z. And that's why every
time talk to him, I'm always just like tell me
you know, and I just yeah, I'm just soaking it
up like like a sponge, you know, like you tell me,
you know, like you've been here, you've been there. How
does it feel when you go? How did it feel

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when you happen when you went through this? And that's
I think that's that's his It's one of his tools.
But he's superpowered to go. It's the mentality, you know.
I think he's rappers. Yeah, he's one of the best
rappers ever. Absolutely, I'm his biggest fan, number one fan.
But he's superpowered. I think is really how you encourage

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your people to dream bigger and to be like, if
I come from this and I'm doing this, you also
can do it. So me as Latino, you know, I
feel the same responsibility. So when I think about JC,
like I want to be jac but from the Latino world,
you know, and just like empower and go more beyond
the music. How you touch culture, how you can make

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business that you can help your your community, how you
can you know, how you can make people feel proud
of who we are. And there's something that the United States,
you know, we're a minority. You know, I didn't know
they call us brown, are though I didn't know. I
didn't know they call us brown until I'll started living here.
It was funny to me because I'm in Colombia, you know,
like grew up in Colombia, and we're just you know, Latinos.

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That's it. Yeah, that's it is. And I'm like, oh,
you're brown. No, we're the same, right, So when I
got here, like the brown and the black community were like,
what's up? But okay, but brown and black is the same.
And yeah, at the end of courd we're the same.
You know, it's the same. Yeah you know. So so
that really hits me. I would like, wait, you like

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a part and we're not. We're global city sense period,
and we make part of the humanity. So and by
the way, we all come from Africa, right, So even
you want to hate it, there's no way you can't,
you know, scientific proof. So that's when I say about
JAYC is that he opened my eyes how you can
go beyond. He's superpower to me, it's in spart of

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the world. Rob is just one of the sparklings that
he has. Yeah, I want to know what yours are.
I want to talk about what yours are today. But
can I tell you what I think they are? And
I gotta imagine I'm just as a guess. You can
tell me if I'm wrong. Let me see yourny. I'm
a poison out here. I wanted to know you where'

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wrong with? He's right there when she said the superpowers,
you can tell I'm who? Yeah, you tell me if
I'm right. I'm trying to figure out what his superpowers, right,
I'm trying to guess this. Number one. I think he
is extremely discipline, m more than discipline, more than discipline. Yeah,

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that's a good one. Yes, you gotta tell you what
I based it on. What well? Number one, you were
at your you were determined to have this career, even
at a young age, even when people try to say
no so many times, so many times. Um, the way
you have attacked your mental health, um, and just the career,

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the length, and to me, I feel like you can't.
You couldn't have done those things without without discipline, right, right?
So when were you is that something that you are
aware of or yes, I'm super aware of you know,
discipline house, you know, it's the reason why I'm here.
You know, one of the reasons why I'm here, you know.

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And you know resilientia, you know, like resilience. Yeah, resilience. Also,
that's a good power. That's a power that's one of yours.
I think it's a good power. I think that's one
of yours. Yeah, you know. And sometimes the discipline is
like do things that you don't want to do, but
you know it's good for you. Like what tell me
one thing? Like sometimes it's like get up early in
the morning, do exercise and you know, like sometimes five

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six in the morning, did you do it? And I'm like, no,
I have to, you know, because it's good for me,
even though sometimes you feel like tomorrow, you know, it's
too early. Like I wake up at five or six
and I go and get a cold plunge the first
thing I do. Yes, you see that, And I know
that it sounds terrible. It is, it is terrible, but

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it's good for you, you know, So I do that
and then you never get lazy, That's what I'm saying, Like, yes,
but I have to do it anyway overcome that. You know,
I have to be like this is good for me.
I wish I envy that, I wish I had more
of that. It's it's it's it's a it's a Also
it's like good and bad sometimes why I could be

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bad because maybe you because you have like I'm basically like,
oh shed you know, like so like let's say I
slip four hours and I want to go to the gym,
Like now you have to sleep, you know. I'm like, no,
I want to go to the gym. It's good for me,
but you have arrest. So some time you start fighting

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with the discipline because you're like, I have to do this,
but we don't have to when I do it. So
sometimes it's like, given, of course I respect it, I
can't do it. I have an idea, like I know
I need to do it. I do it for two days,
I'd be like I have forget about that. Forget about
that unless I really love it. Then you know, if

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I really love it, I do. But that to me
is not discipline. That's just kind of do and what
you love. What do you think what are some of
the other ones that you know that you could tap
into that's given you this life, not just your career,
but like your life. That's what is your superpower. I
have one super power. This is I give really great advices. Really,
but I'm really bad. Sometimes I don't applied for myself,

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which is crazy, right because I have received a lot
of call from I felt like, oh, what should I
do with this? How I fix this? How can I
get here? How can I talk with these people? How
can I getting this? Like I love to help people,
you know, It's like it's in my nature, you know.
And I feel like when they tell me, like I
have this problem, I'm just like get excited, you know, like,

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let's me see how I fixed this, you know, your problems. Yeah,
Like I'm like like the phone call and give me
like the rush, you know, like when you do business.
Also like you would like you're back and forth. I'm
happy when I fix things, you know, and and and
and I'm happy to fix to fix things. And I'm
happy to give great advices even though sometimes I don't

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apply for myself. Does he give you good advice? It's
a real one, is a real one. Do you think
those things playing into why you're so successful as an artist?
Discipline and like what would you call that problem solving? Yes,

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but there's also another one that we call him my gene,
which is how like your hustler mentality, you know, and
that was really helped me a lot because I was independent, uh,
and they have no idea how I was gonna make
it because we didn't have no artists from Colombia that
you know, has opened the door to be like, okay,

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this is the path, this is the the you know,
someone that paid their way for us in Colombia. We didn't.
We had that a young king in Puerto Rico, you know,
but he wasn't in our country and there was no one.
So I have to figure that out how to pay
my own way, you know. So that's you know, the mentality,
the hustle mentality. I'm gonna be like, okay, how I'm

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going to create this. I'm going to start like conquering
going from this city to this city. How the radio works,
how the the distribution works. How I was my own manager,
I was my own pr what was everything? You know?
Like people used to call and I'll be like, hey,
uh um, you're talking with hose Uh this is your

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Bobby's manager. You know what I mean like, okay, so
you know we need the show off it, Like okay,
let me talk to Jay. I'll give you a call back,
you know, like so you also like crazy yeah, And
then I was like, you know, like hey, I just
talked to Jay. You know, yeah, he's ready to do
the show. You know, just let's book the tickets. I
do everything. Oh, thank you, Hose and I appreciate you

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so good. And yeah we did it, but yeah it
was so the so discipline, muscle, mentality, yeah, and what
and the good advices good advice yes? Or fixer fixer yeah?
Have you mister Mark on those like have you probably yes?
Because sometimes people sometimes you want to help people that

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they don't ready, they don't want help, you know, like
sometimes we see people are like this guy do this,
He's just gonna kill them, and then you are like, yo,
you know sometimes you think that people think the same
way we do. Yeah, right, that's open to your advice
if they're but so that way they should us, right

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because they say, like the the master comes when the
when the study is ready. Right. I'm not saying I'm
not a master, but I've been when I'm looking for something.
My teachers, my master will be like, Okay, tell me
what you want. Do you have a moment that you're
like most proud of that you help somebody kind of
or there's a lot but I just cannot say, because

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there's a lot of them. Are public artists already really successful,
But it took my I took my homework to be like,
you know what, let's go, let's let's do this. I
know you're gonna get there. And they're already in their
amazing places. Yeah, so you don't want to take Nah,
they know it, and I think the game, the industry
know it. But and I did it with more heart.

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You know. I didn't even think about our business side.
It was just like, you know, maybe because it's not
even maybe it's true. It's because when I was on
my way, you know, building my career, I didn't have
no one to guide me, you know, to be like,
because we didn't have our regular artists in our country.
So I feel like man ilish, like if that a

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Yankee was from here, I'll be like so close to
just ask him a listen, you know, like what should
I do? You know? Uh? And I didn't, So I'm
not saying that I'm ver Yankee but I have lived,
you know, beautiful moments and building the Latino Gang. How
we said, you know that I want to make it
easier for people. You know, maybe what takes ten years,
you know, happened with five if they opened. Some of

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them are really opened and they did it. But some
of them, you think that they think the same way
you are, and they're not. And some of them think
you have to you think they have the same codes
like being grateful to me, being grateful and loyal is
the most important thing in life to me. It doesn't
mean that they have to be for them. You get me.

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So sometimes that's why we sometimes that we get so
upset that you like, man, you know, like I did
it with love, but sometimes you gotta set that you
want the love back, you know, and and and that's sad,
you know, it really makes me sad, you know. And
sometimes people like don't take it to personally. You know,
I did it with more heart. I wasn't even thinking

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about business. I was thinking about how can I help
this person? And you never know, you never had thank you,
you know, and you never like So it's weird because
it's that battle between your ego. Sometimes I like, man,
I help in this, you know, like, but if your
ego wasn't involved, you wouldn't care if they But when
you put when you put the heart on it, you know,

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because I put heart on it. And that's when you like,
I feel like you put heart on everything and everything.
I also doubt that that is a gaping of course,
because you I'm really passionate. Yeah, who are you most
grateful too? Wow? My mom is my first mentor. She's

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my first mentor because she always made me believe that
we are the same. So she was like, I know,
one day you're gonna be with presidents, and you're gonna
be with your you know, with your favorite artists in
the world. Don't never forget that they're just like us.
So never get into a place thinking that you're less.

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You know, you guys have the same situations, even though
because they have one morning more family doesn't mean that
they go through the same things. They go home, they
might have the problems. They might sometimes sleep in the
sofa because their wife is mad at them. And your
mother's amazing, it's real, you know, And I've been and

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I've been in those almost that I mean this so
far and I'm like my mom was right, like, yeah,
so my mom is its definitely one of my biggest mentors. Um.
But through life, you know, like let's say, like every
level they start getting like to unlock, there's always someone
to help you to unlock. Right. So when it was

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like learning about radio, I met a guy which is
one of my you know, my mentor in radio. His
name is Chula. So it was like the one who
told me, Okay, this is the way you want to
learn this, you know. And then I wanted to decide
how can I get to Venezuela to how can I
go to Peru, to Brazil, different countries, and I have

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more mentors they'll be like, Okay, you should do this,
you should do that. Then I have a spiritual mentor,
um Romedo, that helped me a lot. What's his name, Yes,
he's there. He taught me a lot about you know, spirituality,
you know, and and and and that's how you you know,

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like now I'm learning from Jay Brown, you know, like
I'm like business every time, I just I just want
to soak it off, you know, I just want to
learn from the people that are really admired. You know.
Also when when when with Scooter Brown we started working,
you know, like I learned a lot, you know, and
and but they don't have to be successful. I have

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learned a lot of people from people in the streets.
But just tell me one thing, and I'm like, how
they know I need these words and the exactly moment,
you know, it can be homeless and just talk to
me and be like, yo, I don't know, that's weird
to me. That happened to me that people in the
streets rather Yeah. One day I was having a really
bad day and and just a guy came to me.

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It was like, you know why everything's gonna be okay? Wait,
we passed then he left. No, Like, isn't that weird?
Super weird? Ever, Like, is that an angel or you
believe in that? I believe in energy, absolutely, yeah, I
believe in energy. I grew up religious, you know, really Catholic,

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but I believe more in energy, you know. I believe
more in you know, in the good vibes and the
love you know, we did. I was telling you about
that that marathon. I was ready at the end. I
had like a mile left, I had done twenty five
miles away, and I could in visualize in my body
going to the floor I literally was what I was
going to pass out right, and I was literally gonna go.

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I could see like my body falling to the floor,
and lady in the crowd, older lady. I don't she
didn't know me nothing. She was like, don't do it,
You're almost there. You're gonna finish it. And it was
so like it was like she could see in my soul.
I don't know if she just popped up out of
nowhere and then I and she got me. Then she

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pushed me through like and then I just finished to rest.
But the moment when people like that show up, it's
like it's powerful. I told you, Yes, it happens to
you often, because it doesn't happen to me often, but
it has happened a few times lately. It's happening more
often than I that I that I used to, you know,
someone like yo, do this? Hey, like what tell me?

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You know? Sometimes we start like you know, now, people
canna see this and they're gonna come to you all
the time. And good the color is blood. But that's
that's a funny one because I was like in Colombia
a long time ago. It's an old lady and she
looks like like from Game of Trolls back in the day,

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and she was like, it's a girl. It doesn't want
you to be successful. You don't like are you gonna
make it? And I'm like, okay, thank you so much
what she left. And they're like, it's that girl. But
maybe if you start, if you really take that and
you put that in your mind, you might think that

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it's really something going on, or she could have just
been a little backy. It depends. That's that's that's what
you do is what you do with information, right, So
I'm not gonna take this person up, but I'm gonna
take that. I want to take that. You're gonna pass. Okay,
you take that part. Yeah, I always take the positive things. Yeah,

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I'm like, huh, even though sometimes you start like, what's
the best thing that you've taken from your spiritual advisor?
I don't know what's the best thing. Do you think
that he's And let I've been having more more spiritual mentors,
you know, like because this is one special thing that
I just learned. Sometimes you think your mentors are perfect,

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and when you start watching their mistakes, you're like, I'm like,
he's another human being just like me. He just grat
at this. But it doesn't mean that they have mistakes
and their commit they're not God, they're not. And that
was that was something that I just learned because I
used to just like idolize, idolize right, and you'd be like, yeah, no, this,

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whatever they say is the right thing until you start
like opening your eyes and black, I don't have to
do exactly why you said in this because if I
don't feel it, what I have to do it, you know.
So speaking of mentors, that's what I've been learning lately.
You know that like, okay, you could, you could be
a great mentor of this, but it doesn't mean that

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you're perfect, doesn't mean that commit mistakes, and it doesn't
mean that you'll give me a great advice and then
you focut about side. And also their path is different
than you're a path exactly and purpose exactly. But there's
there's a lot of wonder. Told me one day was like,
it's not sometimes you think why things happened for you know,
what happens to you, And it's better the thing to

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think that it's not like for what what is the purpose? Yeah?
What is the purpose? Now? Why is happening to me
now for what is this happening to you? You know?
And that that really helps me, you know, to be like, Okay,
it's not why, it's what for? You know, what's what

(29:19):
you have to learn from this? You know? And and
there's things that I still remember about times and then
you forget about it. That's what I told you. Sometimes
we're so stolen. I'm really sometimes I'm no, sometimes I'm
really stole always that could be a superpower or super
weakness because yeah, because you're like, I want to get this,

(29:41):
and when I get there, that's funny. But then if
it comes the other way around that you just like
I want to go against you. It's gonna be so
hard to hit you harder than anybody else. Can we
we're gonna talk about one of the superpowers, which is
like discipline when we think is want to get the superpowers?
Can you talk about how that how you use that
in terms of like mental healing and spiritual work, because

(30:02):
you seem very disciplined about even that. Yeah, right, like
you I saw it. You meditate, yes, every day? Yeah, yeah,
every day? What else? What I do? Sometimes I don't
because That's what I'm saying. So even you know, it's
it's great for you. Sometimes you just for some reason,
maybe sometimes you start feeling that you're so good. They're

(30:25):
feeling great. You're like, I don't need this. I feel great,
and then when the energy goes down, I missed this.
So last week I put an alarm to meditate that
three times. So day, okay, I have to go and
do it. Meditation definitely has saved my life because I

(30:46):
don't do any drug drugs. You don't drink. I just
drink on Sundays and I get really wasted Sundays. That's new.
That's like you just started drinking now, it's funny. It
is fun I never I never was a drinking person.
I'm not the lady. What do you drink now? And someday, No,

(31:06):
I drink champagne, whatever it comes. Oh, whatever you want,
whatever people want to give me, I will drink that.
And how is that going for you? Amazing? I'm always
I'm always waiting for Sunday. I'm like, I can't wait
for Sunday. So why why do you pick Sunday? Why
is it that the one day a week? Because through
my you know, my trainer and uh, you know my diet,

(31:27):
we have chit day day, so like, yeah, I'm gonna
go really like I'm gonna read cheating. I wondered why
you didn't drink. I wondered if that was like a
mental health thing? Was that a wait thing? And alcoholism
in the family. Yeah, I grew up. I grew up.
Uh no, Yeah, my grandfather was basically drinking all the time.

(31:47):
But it was more there was more like a culture
Latino thing, you know. Yeah, that's what we say. Yeah,
but I want to say that was he was drunk. Yeah,
I call it right, You're right, You're definitely if you're
drinking every day, you have an alcohol are you right? Um?
But he wasn't like a boy. He wasn't an angry

(32:07):
a bad example, you know. But the other guy is
always strong, like tipsy and thing. But you know, he
never heard, no worry, just hurt himself of course. But
I was like, if I'm gonna do what I want
to do, I I need to be focused, you know.

(32:28):
And because I was watching Loo's going crazy with drugs
and rappers. Also because I'm a huge fan of hip hop,
you know culture, like this guy's going kind of crazy,
and I think that's not going to help them. To
get to where they are, you know. So I was like, no,
I'm not gonna drink and I'm not gonna do any
drug and I was gonna be focused and in my

(32:51):
dream in my career. And that really has a lot
to do with my success because I was like, no drugs.
I tried him, of course, just with that's it. That's
it exactly, you see, like that's nothing, that's that's that's
That's what I'm saying. It affect you because I love

(33:12):
to have control and I have bad trips when a
small way, like you know, paranoid but crazy like what
something like that, like running like like like I was,
you know, I was with Chelan. We were we were
recording together and so our friends were smoking and like, on, here, man,

(33:35):
let's make it a moment. Yeah he wasn't smoking, but
I was like making on, we're doing a lot of
great music here together. Let's smoke and then start smoking
and then start feeling my heart. Then I look around
and I know that I'm pale. I knew I was.
I knew I was pale, but were like I don't

(33:55):
want to know when to fucking react sure that I'm
like that I'm pale. Yeah, so I looked at left
and then then my why, my sound engineering and great friend,
was like, you're fucking pale. You're pale, like you're like
you why that, like what's going on in your head?
Not good? Why? He said that, Guys, I have to

(34:17):
live and I started running. How much we did just
I don't know, but I just I would just I
don't know. And then a lot of my friends there
there's small ways that were like, yo, it's just drink water.
Come on the drink water. So one of my closest friends,
bas she came with me outside, was like let him,
let him, let breathe, let it flow, enjoy I'm like,

(34:38):
I'm not joining this ship. It's just like this is
not this is not this is not fun. And now
my friends were like, oh, chill, bro, just slow, I'm
not flowing this bro like and it was like I'm
gonna have a panic attack right now. It was like
drink water, drink water, drink a lot of water. You
should drink me like I heard that ship doesn't work.
And then then it was then he was did Edgar

(35:01):
and see any of this? Yeah, he saw me running,
and then I saw him on the other day. Yes,
and then I told him what happened in my back trip.
And and because the drugs the thing I grew up,
one of my uncles was really a druggy. So I

(35:21):
saw the suffer of all my family. Like it was
like fourteen years old, looking for my for my uncle
in the hoods, be like, where's my uncle, you know?
And I found him in the streets, you know, like
with ten steps, you know, he got stopped in times. Yeah,
and then I was like fourteen, and then like two
years after that, he got shouting his head like five times,

(35:45):
and I wasn't we're gonna be like okay, mom, I'm
gonna go and pick him up, or like let's do that.
So I saw that. I was like, oh, I don't
want to go there. I get that. Yeah, I don't
want to go there. So I lived that by the example,
you know, like so that's what we and what I'm
doing drugs. Yeah, some people to use that as example.
Some people then they're influenced by that and then they
go down that road, which you know, so yeah, it's

(36:08):
probably to do with your superpowered discipline. Yes, that keeps
you away from all the bad things. Absolutely, God blessed man. Amen, Wow,
So what's what is um? How is it being a
dad changed you? Like? How are you different? Now? I'm
started learning that you know that you don't have to
be I mean I was. I never had a baby,

(36:31):
so it's kind of right. People don't prepare you. There's
no way to prepare. There's no way. So I mean,
sometimes don't wake up and I'm like, oh my god,
I have a baby. I have a baby. Person. Yeah,
I have a person, you know what, And and you
start being less selfish before you were just like focus
on your you know, in yourself and your family, you know, like,

(36:53):
but not even another human being. And you've got to
be conscious that you cannot transfear your fears to your kids.
So like, I'm really like, what are your fears from?
Because what I learned about, what I learned through my
process is that a lot of our fears are are

(37:16):
and our fears they're transferred by our parents. Let's say
when I was a kid, my dad used to talk
with that, oh, you know, being poor when you're old,
you know, this is it's the worst thing that could
happen to you anyone. He wasn't telling me, he wasn't
telling me to me you know, he wasn't telling me
that he was talking out loud in the house, so

(37:37):
those fears started getting into my head. He wasn't he
didn't want to do that any myself, but he transferred
those fears being broke. So when I was two, alable work.
I can't be broken exactly. And then my mom, which
has been sick forever. She has sickness called porfidia, so

(37:59):
it's basically like a cancer in the blood. My mom's
always being sick since I have memory, so she always
talking about death. She was always talking about that, not
in front of me. They actually started talking in front
of me, and that she transferred those fears to me
about death, you know, and and and and so on

(38:22):
and so on. You know, it's not that they wanted
to to make your life bad. But now that I'm
conscious that I can transfer those fears to my son,
even if I have them, I'm just going to keep
them away until he's so conscious to me, I know
what this is what I suffer. But I don't want
you to suffer from this. Yeah, you know, I don't.

(38:45):
I know. It's not it's easy to say, it's easy
to say, hard to apply. Yeah, right, it's easy to say, yeah,
it's generational, right, It's like generational trauma goes on and on.
But at least you're mindful of it. You'll do better.
I will. I will do better. Death doesn't mean I'm
gonna make it perfect, No, because I don't know. They
let it know that we're not. Yes, but but but

(39:06):
I don't want my kid to have the same fears
that that I had, You know that I have, because
it's not fair. It's not fair when you know they
can do it. Yeah, at least those two fear of that, Well,
your kid also doesn't a fear of death? And what's
the other one? And being broken? Yeah? Those are you two? Like?
And then when I got COVID, they started the COVID

(39:29):
almost killed me. I know what happened. There was no
vaccines or nothing like that, or or mine COVID was
a different strength, but mine, what was happening Like you
couldn't breathe, Yeah, I was. I was, you know, this
close to go, you know, to just like being disconnected basically,
so they had you on ventilator. It was about we're

(39:51):
about and we're like this doesn't work now and I
go two days? So what is going on in your mind. Yeah,
and after that, I I'm really scare of sickness, of
dye by sickness, you know, because I never thought, how
does it? You know, how it feels to be sick,

(40:13):
you know. And then I start having more empathy to
my mom, you know, you know, I was like, if
I feel this, there's been three months. It took me
up a year and a half to recover. By the way,
my mom just had COVID and she was terrifying. Yeah,
but my mom was in coma for three days, she

(40:35):
lost her hair, she still got proners with memory, she
had to learn how to walk. Yesterday I called her
on FaceTime and she was with oxygen, like what happened?
We're now the oxygen went down again to eighty five
nine and it's been more than eight months since she
got COVID's super tough. So then she reminds my fear shit,

(40:55):
you know. And it's sad because as your my mom
with all the sickness, and then you see her with
this shit you know and stuff, you know, And that's
that's what I told you that the song Elte it's
it's so real because people don't ask if if you
if yourself or not. Yes, you know, they just want
to see the best of you. And and you know

(41:15):
social media, so so you seem so happy on social
media all the time. If I feel it, if I don't,
I do, I don't do it because I'm being I
cannot go to bed and know that I'm fake. I'm
faking myself. Yeah. I don't think you're fake. I think
you choose the moments when you're feeling good and then

(41:37):
you put on social media, so only people only see
the highlights. They see the highlights. The thing which was,
we have a big discussion with one of my friends
in the industry. You were like, why why you One
day you came out talking about mental health that you
were in depressed that took your superpowers away, and bro,

(42:00):
I just listened and I had the conversation with it.
They were like five five five guys from the industry
like you fucking Jake Bobblin, you cannot show weakness. And
I was a listen. Bro like being depressed because there's
a lot of stigma about it. And I haven't felt
the press for like two years to god, well thank god, Yeah,

(42:25):
especially since my kid was born. I'm like my brain
and my chemical brains are My chemicals and my brain
are been amazing even through all the stress that you know,
life come foray U. And he was like, when I
felt because I didn't know what it feels to have
panic attacks and inside in the press, I never know

(42:46):
about that. I wasn't that was for crazy people until
that happens to me. So when I knew how it fails,
I was like, I gotta tell the world about home feeling.
I don't care. I didn't even think about I didn't
even ask my team. I just gotta go and tell
you listen, I'm going through this shit. Hey, you're going

(43:06):
through this. You're not alone, and you're not the only one.
This happened to me also, and we had this discussion,
you know, like that was like two months ago, like
why you show weakness? What do you do? And I'm like, man,
I'm a human being, you know, like yeah, but you
you should just keep it quiet with your family. And

(43:29):
I was like, Mannam, that wasn't what I felt at
that time. So now what I'm doing, And then how
do you save people? How do you That's that's that's
the beautiful thing. Because they want to start doing tours
a lot of people came to me, but like, you
know what, you save my life. You talk about mental health.

(43:49):
You know, I wanted to come in suicide and I
didn't because of you. But they never the people who
hasn't suffered that, it's hard to understand that it's even
more powerful than you. Yeah, you know, you can be done, man,
but if you get here by that takes you down
exactly absolutely. You know, I've been reading, I've been learning.

(44:10):
I have my own apple that we're gonna we're gonna
launch real soon. Oh yeah, like I'm about Yeah, it's
it's it's about wellness. It's about wellness, but that includes
you know, how to how to try to avoid to
get into depression and anxiety by any way, the chemical
this balance that it just happened sometimes for no reason.
You know, it's like when someone got cancered. It's like

(44:31):
some people do it, you know, did something to get
it that we're smoking a little cigarette and then oh
there's a lot of people the smoke cigarets. They never
got cancered. But some people just got it by heritage. Yea,
the mind was heritage. And and so I did with
creating this app about wellness, and that's what I'm doing.

(44:53):
How can I help the world even more, you know,
not just talking about it, giving them tools also to
have to feel better. The name of the app is
called oj with means listen, you know, and it's made
by Latinos. You know, there's a lot of Spanish speakers
around the world that they don't have the right information

(45:15):
about how to feel better. So that's what I'm doing.
What do you think your purposes while you're here? Yeah,
my purpose is to inspire the people to believe in themselves,
even though sometimes you think you don't believe in yourself.
Do you still have doubts about yourself? Yeah, sometimes I
doubt myself. Sometimes it happens at listen to me, you know,

(45:43):
and then I recover again. You know, I'm like the phoenix,
you know, like recover from the ashes, you know, like
let's do it again. If I didn't want to do
it twice, you know, and third and four. But it's
not easy. So I think one of my purpose definitely
is you know, make people dream that they can achieve it.
You know, I'm not supposed to be here, you know,

(46:05):
like I grew up listening to your song No the
one shit if I could go yes, So so, you know,
are you kidding me? That's crazy? Absolutely, you know. And
I grew up, you know, knowing about you, you know,
and I'm not supposed to be here, but I'm here,
you know. And it was impossible to think the way before.

(46:29):
It was impossible to think that a Latino can have
their own Jordans. You know. It was impossible to think
that you can be the number one most listen artists
in the planet. You know, what's impossible to be on Latino,
being on the super Bowl. All the things were impossible.
What we make it, What we made it possible. So

(46:49):
I want people to dream big and to know that
they can be whatever they want. And it's not about
being artists or being famous or rich. Now, it's about
whatever you want to do. You can make it, you know.
But one of my biggest purpose in this war is
make people dream and also make you feel that it's
okay not to be okay sometimes Yeah, that's a good one.

(47:14):
I have a really personal thing with the Latino culture.
I just want to You're so good at it. You
really represent well. Thank you, you really represent well. I've
heard you say many times that it's how important it
is because you're English. Is clearly you can do anything.
If you wanted to make an album in English, you could.
I don't know about that. You don't, Yes you can.
There's there's artists that but listen, we're crazy about that.

(47:40):
And my dream of it was like, how can I
cross over without doing something in English? Yeah? No, I
love that. I've heard you say that. I think that's
really much admirable. You know, people were like, you're not
gonna make that ship Like wait, you know, did you
really believe or you just remember? I remember having an
interview one day with Nikki jam It was a bailboard
and and you know, this lady asked like, do you

(48:02):
think one day it's gonna be a one hot, one
hundred Spanish song with with you guys in this genre?
And never remember Nikki saying no, I want yes and
then I like it like that with Cardi ban Ba
Boni boom here the first aim one hundred and was
like I told you it was posible, you know. So

(48:25):
it's it's it's about that, you know, it's about dream,
It's about you know, sometimes we we we think the
clothes are the doors are closed with at even knocked them.
You are really good at supporting people too, I see,
like you've said that before, but like even Cardi, I
think that song was a turning point for her in
terms of like the globally that song was for us,
you know, and that's not just for her, you know,

(48:46):
like we put the love on it. I remember another
thing about the song. It was we were in the
meeting and it was like, listen, this is the single.
I'm telling you guys. It was here in New York.
We don't know. I'm telling you this is the single.
When the album drops, you will know where this is going.

(49:07):
So they dropped a single and they dropped the album,
and I like it, what, Yeah, we need to make
a video. I told you guys. They want to believe
in me, you know, like I I think I have
that that you're saying part of the superpowers, like this
kind of see the future, kind of see like this
can be built. You know this is going to happen.

(49:29):
Is there another time you've done that? I don't know.
So many times it's not even about music, you know,
like with friends and with people like but it's not
it's not that that you're have a magic in It
is that you start learning how to read the the acts,
you know, the effect, the cause and effect situation is

(49:50):
like you know, so she's starting start like understanding, like
if he's acting like this, you're gonna keep acting this way.
It's gonna get here. So it's maybe just like getting
no more more more like fast and the way to
learn or to read people in moments. Yeah, or maybe
it's a superpowerful that I can see things that people

(50:11):
don't see. A lot of people call me the blue hole.
Why do they call you? Because I like happy, Like
sometimes you're not gonna do it here anyway. Sometimes we're like, okay,
let's close the eyes, come on, let's do it. No,
I don't know, I puke it up. I suck it up.
But when I'm like, I mean, I'm let's do it.
My friends got here, like we close the eyes and

(50:33):
they sent me. I said like, okay, pick three colors,
you know, and are you doing You're gonna do it
right now? Yeah, let's do it. If it up, No,
but you have to write it down. What the name
of color? Not just one color? One color? Okay, Oh
this doesn't work. That looks so bad. No, stuff works,
it works, it works. Let me see so blue, yellow, red,

(50:58):
the thing yellow? But I know that what we're thinking.
But you were writing, why do you know that? Because
that's my fucking shit in my brain? Yeah, I just
wrote why. I didn't get to finish writing it because
you said why there. So that's some ship going on
in my brain that I don't even know what's happening.

(51:20):
That's weird, super weird. Do you pick the lottery numbers?
I wish I wouldn't be here, trust me. I want
to play another game. What else can you pretend? What else?
Are you gonna really a thing? Can we try it
with one other person? I want to see if this
was Brittany write let her down? No can go to
that level. But I used to read there. I think

(51:42):
it's still due. And you're gonna call me crazy. The aura,
the colors of the aura, Yeah, with people energy, the
color when I when when I used to go to
used to go to charge, did you really see yellow? Yeah?
I already told you that three colors, but you start
I mean yellow in the beginning, because okay, there was
a phrenology about what I'm saying. It is like when

(52:04):
when I used to go to church, I used to
just be focused watching the priest. I used to see
like colors. I'm like, what's going on here? Watching colors
in this guy? This is this is a super past.
And then I started like looking everyone and started looking
different colors in every person. Wow. So like I can
see the ura. I don't know, but I feel it.

(52:26):
I see the order of people bought is mine yellow? No?
But I don't know right now. Because you have a
that's the thing. You can get tricked by the light.
So when I do it, like I go like to
like a place without any light. That can mess with
this because I could be seeing like, why don't you
reflection on anything of the blue over there? And you

(52:48):
see that this is something I never talked about. It
was good. I like it. Yeah, it's fascinating. It's weird.
It's not weird, it's just unique. Yeah, it's unique. Is
important because yellow is a color for me. You know,
what color are you? Huh? What color are you? There
were chameleons. I think we changed color every day. It

(53:10):
depends on there our moon, It depends on how we're feeling.
You know. Sometimes you feel like why something you feel
like blue? You know today, what do you feel today?
I'm kind of like like green, like hope you have
hope today? I like that. That's a good word. Yeah, green,

(53:32):
What are you hopeful for? What does the future for
you look like? Oh, it's so many areas that I
want to touch, that I want to you know, growing up.
You know first that which is being really weird to
me because I don't understand the old an animation family.
There's no minus for that, you know. On our biggest

(53:56):
you know, Latino artists, to make a huge statement history
of music, i'd be writing in the books, you know,
and be like jac one day in the entrepreneur side
and you know, and how to touch life and embrace
your culture, h and being a great person that I

(54:18):
can't help the world. You know. That's that's that's what
you want to want to be. You know, none of
them are easy. Just being happy? I was. I was
asking them yesterday. I was asking Johnny left already, Johnny's
always left, He's always never here. I was asking, like,

(54:38):
how happy Johnny? I did? I ask you how happy
were you yesterday? Are you happy? Well? From one to ten,
how was you were? Eight? That's a good number, from
one to ten? Number obviously not obvious. Obviously it's not. Obviously,
there's people that are living one for me, you know. Yeah,

(55:01):
but yeah, sometimes I ask people like really, like how
are you? Are you happy? You know, like how happy
are you? From one to ten? And they're like tell me,
and the start, you know, saying their things how they feel.
I feel sick because I don't have this and that,
and I'm like, but I have this and that, and
I feel and I'm in your same number. M So

(55:23):
that how you sound? Like the code of life? You know,
like what makes you happy? That's a good way to start.
I might steal that for my podcast. I might ask
people on a scale of one to ten, Yes, how
happy you are? How happy are you? If they were,
if they're real, the thing's really weird to see a
ten kind of weird. I'll hope you're happy, are you?

(55:47):
I'm one to ten? Yeah right now? That's a lot.
You're having a great life. He is generally a happy guy.
Energy is always up right. I don't know his personal
dark moments, but what he projects is an eight happy
are you from one to ten? Right now? Six? That's

(56:07):
a real guys. Now you're a real one too, Yeah,
But that's what that's that's that's what I'm saying. You know,
like you sometimes you ask people how are you? But
really are you asking how are you? Let me think
about what my number is? How happy are you today today? Yeah,
don't think about passes pass I'm gonna say at seven,
that's great. I woke up with I had a rough

(56:28):
morning that you were like five, so I started out
of five. Yeah, this is a great conversation. I'm happy
to see you. It's good energy in here. So you
lifted me up a couple a couple of notches. But
it's not unhappy. It's just yeah, it was a probe
to say unhappy because I wasn't unhappy. I was just tired,
and like you were, you were unhappy. That's what you

(56:48):
say you. I want you talking to be straight up.
You've been straight up. If you're not feeling happy, you're
feeling unhappy. You're saying I should be okay to say that. Yes,
there are definitely days i'll feel Yeah, you're angie and everything,
but it doesn't mean that you cannot said day you're unhappy,
first moments in your life or even today. Why is
it harder for me to say today versus yeah, sure,

(57:11):
I've been unhappier moment, see, but not when you're saying
the day it's thing. You're showing weakness right now. So
it's easy when you say, like, yeah, it has rough
times I had and I conquered. I conquered it. I
have the courage when you're like right now, I feel like, shit,
how good are you at it? Number? Right now? We'll

(57:32):
give me your number right now, right now? Yes? Six
or seven? Okay? Yeah this morning, this morning, I was
like four, but I'm gonna get to nine today. Yeah,
why not? He's hold in the mind. M hmm. Yeah.

(57:52):
On an average day, On an average day, I think
I'm like seven, okay, seven, eight, that's good. Seven date
is good. Yeah, on the average day. But yeah, there's
day that she goes to two. Still. Yeah, then say
what sets you off? What would take what could take
you to a two? My mind asking myself too much,

(58:17):
asking myself too much, asking myself looking around instead of
looking inside, looking around. I guess you confuse you know.
So that's why that's one of the things that I
want to share with people. That's like, like start looking around,

(58:39):
looking side of you much again, easy to say, easy
to say, so hard, especially in this climate social media.
Everybody's in an opinion, everybody's everybody's out loud, everybody's in front.
It's hard. It's hard. Sometimes I want to get rid
of just want to be a day that I'll be
just out of social media for a couple of months,
because I think that gives a lot of anxiety to people.

(59:01):
Why because people see the perfect life and everybody's trying
to show the best, right the highlight reel. Yeah, exactly,
so they want popping Champa and yeat, you know in
the car. It's great, that's that's great. I don't. I don't.
Who wants to post when you're at the two? I
didn't once you didn't. I told you when I started,
when I said that I was depressed at the two?

(59:21):
I was. I was below. Yeah, but did you post
in that moment or just around you know what? I'm
going to talk about this? I was ten below you know, sup?
Serial shop ten and uh And I think that I'm
the only artist has made that on the Latino culture

(59:42):
to be like okay, it's okay, like shit, especially Latino men,
there's there's like a there's a lot of it, a
stigma about it. You have to be they want to
be the macho man and everything's cool, it's perfect. You
can handle it. Uh, one day, this is a cool
story before before you take I'm never going to get
I wasn't. I was. I was right here, close from

(01:00:06):
here to here, and I was in a balcony. I
just bought a new place and uh, and I was
with hey dad and his son. His son was suffering
from depression, and it was really concerned about him, and
I understood why he was feeling. So his dad was saying,
you're weak, You're ungrateful, you don't value life. And I

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want to listen, sir, I'm want to tell you something.
You know where we are right now? Right? You love
this penthouse? Do you think I'm weak? I made this
coming from zero. Do you think I'm weak? Do you
know my music? Have you ever been in Rome? Have
you listened to my music in Rome? Here? Like? Yes?
Do you think I'm weak? I suffered from the same

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thing that your son have. I'm not weak. It's just
something that happens with us. As I came at all,
there's balance. So they'll never tell your kid that he
is weak, because I'm not weak either. It just shit
happened sometimes you might have saved that kid's life. Yes,
he's way better now, he's taking his match, you know.
And I think that learn a lot that day. Thank

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god I was there. I gotta imagine, do the work
that you've done and amount you've shared and the amount
of people that you've touched, that you've probably saved a
lot of lives, I think a lot. Do people tell
you that often? Yes? So many times? Yeah, yes, so
many times. I mean, what a great legacy. Yeah, that's
that's that's that's even if it's just that if you

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did nothing else, that's like this, Yeah, it's true. That's
a human really powerful statement to make people that they're
not alone and have been in places that I start
talking about it normally like you start talking about soccer,
about basketball, and from tanning the table five are like, okay, man,

(01:02:03):
I feel the same m I've been to this. How
can I who should I talk to? You know? And
this because they're stuff being like, Okay, this guy that
is Jay Balwin stuck in about this with all these
people here, and he's not as scared to talk about it.
Why should I be scarrible talking about it? So they

(01:02:23):
start opening they're like some of them start crying. I'm like, yo,
it's okay, you know. Like so that's why speaking of
my friend, when he saw like you're showing your weakness. Wait,
maybe at that time when I show my weakness, what
I did was a superpower to connect to the people.
It's one of yours. Yeah, where do you see? What

(01:02:43):
is like? What is like? Older man Jay Balbin, Like,
what do you see in your future? What does the future?
What does your future look like? Ten years from now,
twenty years from now, twenty years we'll go out with that. Ah.
I wish it could be kind of like a guru.

(01:03:05):
You know, you're gonna be at like a Walter merc No,
not like that, not like that, but you know, like
like someone that that has the balance to talk about.
You've got a lot of shit to talk because sometimes
people think that spirituality and money doesn't get along. Right.

(01:03:31):
Suppose that you have spirituality here, you should be here.
It doesn't make sense, right, But they good things. We're
not talking about religions talk about spirituality. You know, people
are he's spiritual, but what he has money? What's the
problem with one and another? Right? So my dream is
to be which is never gonna happen. Perfect balance is

(01:03:54):
never gonna happen. Of course, likes go like this, but
it's to be like a muggul, you know, like in
the spiritual way and on the business and entrepreneur music,
to be like I can help you in these bold
things and be successful at the same time. You know,
it's always going to be sometimes like this, like that,

(01:04:15):
like that, But have those two peelers really connected and
show that you can be a good human. Which I'm
not saying I'm the best human in the world. I
try to be a good person every day and I
try to learn every day. So that's how I see
myself in twenty days. Like, oh, I see it for
you to a god, you know, I'd be like that's
the Godfather in a positive way. Yeah, you know what,

(01:04:39):
but like this, like tell me how can I help you?
You know, I'm gonna offer that you can't refuse, but
on the good way, you know, Like, you know what,
I think you can do it follow me in this band,
not just because of your success, but because you're of
your intention and of because of your heart. I think
that is absolutely attainable goal for you to do and
to dreams. Honest God, bless you, babe, Thank you so

(01:05:01):
much for today, So grateful you are giving me green
vibes right now. It is green and heavy color. Okay good.
Maybe it's money. Maybe it means the money you're giving me,
all the ring in