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Speaker 2 (10:14):
This series is tied at one apiece.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
The team that normally wears games three, they have a
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I'm telling you so many great things that happening in
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and collegiate events. Timmy, I know last time, coming from
Game one and Oklahoma, there was a lot of thunder
and lightning going on house the weather and you're deck
of the word today.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Oh, he's just raining today. There's nothing real serious happening
this yet. Yes, so it's just raining right now. But
we always have to use the word yet. Yet.

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Speaker 2 (11:51):
But I want to get your thoughts.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
I know we talk about so many things, and I
do appreciate your acumen when it comes to sports and
then refereeing. Give me your film tonight. We know we
have Game three Indianapolis. Game one was one by the
Indy out of Pacers zero point three seconds up. Is
the first time they took the lead. And then in
Game two Oklahoma City, they found their stride and they

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blew them out. It's a crucial game to me for
both teams. Give me your feeling.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
How do you feel about the night's match up in Indianapolis?

Speaker 3 (12:21):
That thought, well, you know, this is the finals. These
are the teams has proved the points. You know, they
deserve to be here. So as they going tonight, you know,
it's all about the mentality are they are they mentally
ready to go and execute, and the team that executes
the best you know, to their abilities and plays defense
will be the will be the winner. O from the

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City has to open. The city has at sit. We
gotta go in there and we're going to regain home court. Advantage.
We ain't going into a win tonight, you know, because
they kind of they feeling that game slip away and
so have they don't just you know, living longer in
that first game than you know, the different story they however,
it's one to one there exce that we need take
away this win today and they don't. Never side Indiana

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saying we can't give this up. Gain hang home field advantage,
home and corn advantage. We must maintain this and play
the level ball they know to play now, you know,
definitely more.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Physical, Yeah, they're more Princeville. Team Oklahoma is taller and skinny.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
They're taller, skinny, almost like a track and field star,
and that any had a hasf of guys and with
more beef on their muscles.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
They've been lifting weights obviously.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
But I want to I want to take a step
back and ask you the psychology for any Ona. As
you've mentioned before, they had rain delaying and they had
some thunderstorms that caused them to wait outside of Oklahoma
City at an airport in Tulsa, I believe, and they
had four hour layover and they just come out of
that series with the New York Knicks where Okay, see

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what's home wrestling from beating up on they're a party
in Minnesota. How do you go from taking the lead
with point three seconds left to steal game one and
game two? Am I oplingion? It's like they were resting
on game three? Does that make any sense your thoughts?

Speaker 3 (14:01):
It made sense, and it appeared that, you know, they
were just trying to hold out for naxt game said
we can give this one up and then just come
back and play stronger.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
I don't know if that's something that's already designed by
the league to do that, but that's what it looked like. Yes,
wasn't there. I'm not I'm not a conspiracy theorist. Yeah,
but just the way it looks.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
And so.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
They didn't play they didn't. They didn't play the same level. No,
they didn't.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
And I want to tell you I've studied track and
field my whole life. Better part of the Olympic track
and field competition, also broadcasting Olympic games coming out of
out of Paris last year. If I could imagine a
race where Jesse Owens wins the hunted me to dash
and maybe he runs I say a nine point nine
to nine, and then the second race because he's already qualified,

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like in the Olympics, you qualified for different he's in
the second race, maybe he runs a ten point five.
I gotta say Jesse didn't give his best effort in
that second race because he knew he just he qualified
for the finals and maybe in the finalship of the
nine point nine to eight do you do you can
you make the same analogy with basketball players that you
just limited your thoughts.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yeah, whenever you know you're already in Okay, that's one
of the things. And so yeah, you do have a
you do let your guard down, and so when you
let your guard down, many things can happen. The one
thing you don't want to happen is to have an injury. Yeah, okay.
And so Indiana played the game the other night, is
though they were looking to not be injured. Yeh okay.

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First of all, we're okay with having this advantage. Yeah,
it don't matter. We give up this game, we'll sell
well going back to Indianapolis with a with the home
court advantage. So that mentality, that mentality can set in
with athletes. But you have some people who just like
an Adrian Peterson, who doesn't know what rest is enough
to know how to go to a slower gear in

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this full set all the time. We don't see that,
and we don't see that many athletes today. Yeah, but
you know that was a person who really exemplified, you know,
showing up every day to play.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yeah. So are Minnesota Vikings? Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
So when we have this situation, this ideal in minded,
you know, well, we know we have a we know
we have the home court advantage. You can lighten up
a little bit. But let's let's let's show, you know,
put fourth in good effort. You have this crowd what
they came for because we are in the entertainment business. Yeah,
they have to entertain.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
Yeah, so have you not been entertained? I've heard that before.
Have you not been entertained? Also?

Speaker 4 (16:34):
You keep it real too, Tommy. I know, and we
know what happened. Indiana didn't play full throttle in game two.
They just did not and I think even carloll pull
out as starters with about four minutes ago and that
blowout as the opposed to making them stand the game
and feel this thing of being whipped up pretty good?

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Your thoughts now, you know, like.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
I say, prevent injury, you have to play another game.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah, yeah, that was I think.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
That was the mentality that we saw. Yeah, you gotta
self uh perseverance, Yeah, you gotta you gotta preserve yourself.
Uh so you can plain that the next game. And
so you know, being put in at four minutes was
one thing, but they could have been pulled at a
six or eight.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
You said as an official, you said this thing was
over an eight minutes.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Just thought, well, intentionally over because we've seen some big
leads to give up. But yeah, four minutes it's a
very is a very safe area to pull them out.
And because you know, you you know what you can
come back from. You've seen the effort all night long.
So if the effort wasn't there, then you know, you know,
you're not gonna try to push something. You're not trying
to force some things. Let's take what we can get

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right now. Put you put into the sin ups, giving
them some time. Yeah, and let you start us, give
a bit more rest, and then we'll come back and
do it again. After that plane ship home.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
You know you talk about that plane trip home.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
I remember when Indiana started as the playoffs, they had
beaten up the Milwaukee Bucks and then they took care
of that. Cleveland Cavalias won the first two on the road,
and then in New York. They ended up taking their
first two in New York and then went back and
dropped game three. It seemed to me just watching the
way they played, they actually played better on the road.
I don't know what's gonna happen to night when they

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played the game it tipled off against Oklahoma City.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
I know Oklahoma City.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
I feel they're gonna come out blazing to meet Indiana
because they did take their foot up the gas. A
locomotive is hard to start right away when you stopped,
and I don't know if that's going to hold over.
The mentality is if you're a fighter and you got
a guy up against the rope, you know that's not
what you pulled back, Timmy, your.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
Thoughts now, you want to you want to keep him
against the rope. So right now, that's the mentality of
a Papa City who says we got there against the rope. Yeah,
so the Thunder's mentality it is there.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
And I'll say this as I see it last week
before the before game one. Yeah, Indiana came in to
Oklahoma on two days beforehand on Tuesday and had to
stop and he had to stop in Tulsa because of
the storms that we had intent of Oklahoma there time,
So is there is there you know on the plane
they're doing whatever they do. They're still together. Well now

(19:06):
the road team is Oklahoma Citylahoma City. Now it's spending
time together. They're not they're not spending all the time,
you know, with the family and the issues. You know, honey,
can you change this light bulb? Honey, can you come
change this duffer? They're not going through these situations, you know,
they're not doing the honey dues, and so their minds
are more focused. And so other Folkahoma City to come out,

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you know, and and and do what they do.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
But then again go ahead to me, go ahead, okay.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
But but on the flip side, Indiana is also human
and going men. They're gonna come out and they're gonna
put force their best performance because they got all the
they got the crowd, okay, they got they got folks
that's going to be cheering, and that's a you know,
it's a wonderful ringo there in Indianapolis. I got a
chance to visit that when I was there one day,
and you know, the crowd shows up. You know, again

(19:54):
we're in the Midwest. People treat this kind of like
like they do college athletics. So you're gonna you we'll
see called the yellow shirts on everybody.

Speaker 10 (20:02):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
So the crowd, the atmosphere is going to be right,
the environment is going to be right. The mentality of
the teams is what's gonna matter. Solama City has to
you know, block block everything else out. Yeah, what's going
on inside this court is what matters. To make sure
we take advantage of every trip down the court because
as you know Indiana, they they're scoring points. Well I
think it's every one point to trips down court.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Yeah, they're good, they're scoring.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
There's there's I said one point. They're going one point
two points per one hundred possessions. Yeah, but anyway, they
are there there, they can put the points on the board.
Olkahoma City defensively, you know, they they get it going
in and just play more total toball.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yeah, they do.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
Talking to the great Tim Young professional official also collegiate official,
knows the game and setting out and what I like
about your your perspective on the game. You know, I've
talked to a lot of broadcasters, and a lot of
times broadcasters they talk from the broadcasting seat.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
You actually did, you actually do? You're talking? You got
you got a whistle in your mouth and when you
really counts to me, your thumb.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
There's some folks out there who who's made a living
by just jacking their mouth. Yes, yes, you know, and
not not need to pass that ball on anybody else,
or throw the ball or tackle somebody pretty deepense to
get a rebound.

Speaker 10 (21:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
These are the people who's just analyzing. Yeah, and you
know when you analyze, you take those four the first
four letters, and you just ain't. That's all you are.
Anything else, you know from sitting on your.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
Blood and a couple of livations never heard when you're
sitting in your button. Well, I do want to just tonight.
In my opinion, Zarrace Halliburton didn't have his best game
last time, but he reminds me of a more muscular
Reggie Miller the way he's a sharp shooter and when
it counts he normally comes through. I think he took
us off the gas in game two. I think that's
the mentality, as you said earlier. Maybe people didn't hear

(21:51):
that part. Maybe the NBA needs to stress this to
seven games because if people get if we get a
five game series or four game series, there's a lot
of TV revenue that lost and a chance to market
your advertising.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Right now, NFL is already a training camp.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
More people right now are watching will Aaron Rodgers come
to camp in Pittsburgh than they are watching maybe.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
The NBA Finals lead up.

Speaker 4 (22:13):
But I want to ask you tonight, Halliburton have to
have a great game, Pascal, See how come you have
to have a great game. He has championship experience when
he played for Toronto they beat Golden State. When Durant
went down with an achilles and then obviously it was
Klayton Thompson went down whether torn acl and his knee.
As you mentioned, we can't have injuries that can derail
the whole thing that in my opinion, those two guys

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have to carry the mouth of the Knight for Indianapolis.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
Your thoughts, well, you know what's really neat about Indiana
is that they have a beach that comes in and
averages doubles figures. Yeah, okay, yeah, So these guys come
off the bench, they get some points that's going to
be scored by some other folks, and so their mentality
is who's next, Yeah, who's next, And so they can
always pull somebody in because they've got somebody in waity

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and so there's not so much pressure on Halliburton. And
see I come to put all the points up there,
they have other folks who can come in and enterprise.
They're not surprised to me because I've been watching right here.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
You know, they got it going on. So you know,
just the least, like you know, letdown, they have somebody
else who can kick up. Yeah, that's the part that
should be concerned and obviosite to see it like this.
I'm not saying nothing that Okamba City Thunder wrong. That Yeah,
they know exactly what they're dealing with. They know when
those guys with the with the wider shows coming in. Yeah,

(23:35):
you know, they know what they're gonna do.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
You know, when I look at say Jules Alexander, the
ny the NBA MVP, obviously he's done it.

Speaker 10 (23:43):
Well.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
He's a lot different than the last couple of MVPs.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
Nicole ochis the joker, about seven feet tall, three hundred
pounds and not very fast, not very athletic, but just
kind of a stable body, a triple double threat every night,
and that's what America has been used to seeing as
an NBA MVP. Now we transition just the post of
the seven foot three hundred pound man. You have, say,
Jillis Alexander, who's very thinner frame, but he's athletic muscular

(24:10):
because stop on a dime, can shoot the three, can
drop the pink and dish off can do everything.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
He's what people think they want to see when you
see an MVP. He's living up to it.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
He's joined the great Michael Jordan and Sequille O'Neil, Kobe
Bryant and also the King Yannis out of the Koupo,
a couple of other guys that were able to average
over thirty points in twelve.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Playoff games he had. He's so young.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
His bright side is a lot brighter as a young
man and already being an MVP.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
Your thoughts on his talent, Oh yeah, he's very talented
and being as young as he is in his body
him and even mature yet you know he's still he's
still looking like he can hoop with the curio. He's
pretty selling.

Speaker 10 (24:49):
Yeah, So.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
Give you a few more days up there at the table.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Yeah, at the tableau. Yeah, when we look at the guy.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
Over in Denver, oh Joker, Yeah, school he was, he was.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
He was a string being.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
He kind of like Chet Hogram you know, for five
years back and then look at him now. So that's
what you know, we look at Chet and chests didn't
get a little bit bigger. Yes, he continues to grow,
and so we look at the m v P and SBA,
all these letters. In that event, we're able to see
we're waiting to see somebody who's uh taking control of
his game of his body at such a young age,

(25:24):
which is really good. And that meant that made mid
range jumper. You know, he's knocking that down like Chris Paul.
But I remember Chris Paul was a kind of a
small character back in the day. He eventually, you know,
sending the league for as long as Moses d Yeah,
he's still got to play, yes, right, so you know,
so he's got a lit bit bicker. So it's Sea
continues to grow and get bigger. He's also growing in

(25:46):
wisdom of the game. He's at his IQ level continues
to increase, and that's what's really wonderful about watching him play.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
Talking to the great Tim Young professional official referee also
colleted referee. I want to act at the and again,
may the best team win. I really don't have a
dog in a fight. I just want to see the
best team win. But I want to just ask you
your thoughts on something. When I open the show, I
do my own rendition of the World Games where they

(26:13):
have the top runners in the history of mankind that
run a hundred meter dash in Africa, and I brought
up Jesse Owens, Usain Bolt, Carl Lyles, Noah Lyles, and
Carl Lewis, no Alloles, and then Jesus Christ and myself
included if you could look at today's NBA players, if
you were to add all the movement to me that

(26:36):
happens in the league. Let's talk about Gianna's going to
the Knicks, Let's talk about the Rant maybe coming back
to the Warriors, or maybe going to Houston.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
There's always talk about movement. Who's going to go where?

Speaker 4 (26:48):
I look at a guy like Gianni's who reminds me
so much of the young Kareemba Blues Jabbar and it
will Shamberlain's body for the sake of the NBA. You know,
Lebron James started at Cleveland, went to Miami, back to
clean the nights in LA. Because of the media market
and if you look at the big cat Corl Havlin downs,
he was up in Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Now he's in New York. Media media savvy curry out here,
go to state this whole life. What would you like
to see? Just if is hypothetical?

Speaker 4 (27:14):
If Yannis were to exit out of miwark he has
one more season, I think on his contract. For the
NBA's sake, would it be great to manufacture him playing
in New York City or Los Angeles with Lebron James,
or in New York City with you know whoever they
put around him.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Your thoughts for CV, you know.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
For TV coverage, that would be great to send him
to one of the coasts. Yeah, but based on his mentality,
he's not a big time person to be in a
big in the bigger cities.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
If you didn't land him in a bigger city, I
want to see him in Houston really so yeah, I mean, look,
Houston's always have some great talent. Yeah, they just said,
you know they ended this year, but they have no
one signature player on that team. Jannis makes people around
him better because he can shoot, he can pass. Yeah,
he plays defense yet, but you know, going to New
York or l A. That's always a big let down

(28:06):
if you don't win it all. How far you get
if you don't win it all, it's just you had
a horrible season. And I don't believe that's gonna fit
his mentality, right. But going but going into you know,
I look at I looked at Houston in Atlanta. Yeah,
both those teams could really use use a star player
like that. I don't think they have the money to
shell out for it, right, But that's just what I thought.

(28:27):
That's just my little personal thought about Giannis. But I
love watching his game and now he's he raised the level. Yeah,
but you know when he had when he used to
play against that kid over in San Antonio. Yeah, man,
that is that that's what y'all.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
Yeah, but that's a good basketball. And now I don't
know if you've been I've seen it on videotape. I thought, well,
Chamberlain when he played for the Lakers, at Kareem Lew
at Thunder played for the Milwaukee Bucks.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
And what was that the better player?

Speaker 4 (28:57):
He was more physical and even well that in an
interview that Kareem couldn't handle him because he was more physical,
like a taller if.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
That makes sense to you, just that would have been
the same size, but he was just like a taller
Karl Malone.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
He was more physical than Kareem, but Kareem had more
for a nest and he worked in that sky hook
that no one can really stop.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Give me your feeling if you can see a sinner.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
Maybe we talk about the best centers of all time,
whether there's a Russell or there's a you could even
put in Shack. I think Kareem's the best because he
had a sky hook that no one has ever been
able to copy. Give me your feelings, team leave Rogern
Logiwan and then Patrick Ewing who would be a great
all time universal player as a center in the NBA,

(29:41):
and your thoughts please, Oh you.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Know, I love Bill Russell. I love what he went,
what he did. You know, when you go eight in
to row, you can't beat that. Yeah, if they have
a piece too it, I don't care if it was
just twelve teams in the league, he still did. He
did it based on that, based on that era. Yeah,
and then you know, to come out and win you know,
eleven out of thirteen years, you would in championship. So
he's always been my number one man at the top
as a center, Yes, Wilt Chamberlain, by far, it's the

(30:06):
best athletic center to ever play. I mean, I appreciate Shak,
but Shack didn't high jump, right, Okay, Shack didn't and
Shack did through no football right right. Wilt Chamberlin was
a pure athlete. He was a sprinter at the University
of Kansas. Brother could run, you know, he could jump. Yeah,
Loan junk as well. He just had it going on.
So when he got in there and he's just playing

(30:27):
he played school ball. Yeah, on the basketball court with
the NBA. Chack matured at that time as it is today. Yes,
but in today's firms, yea, Shack was definitely dominated because
you know his big wife body, long legs. You know,
in his attitude, you gotta stop me. If you stopped me,
you're gonna get hurt stopping me. But at least you
stopped me.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
Yeah, And you know he was telling it. And you
know what, Shack came out of out of the LSU
and he went to Orlando. He was not He was
always a tall man. But if you look at Shack
in the Orlando uniform when he played for the Magic,
and you look at Shaq when he played for the
Lakers more dominant.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Of course, he finished in the Miami and also Boston.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
He was at the plinnacle of his career when he
played for the Lakers with Kobe Bryant under I mean
that they won three in a row.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
NBA had a hard time finding team to do that. Now.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
But if you could say, if you could move time
and change time, what do you think would have happened?
Tequille O Nil versus Wolke Chamberlain, both Lakers are not
your thoughts one on one?

Speaker 3 (31:29):
WHOA that's some power that that would be a pretty
good matchup. Yeah, you know, and there are you talking
about a.

Speaker 4 (31:35):
Mature yeah in their prime Laker or a rookie Orlando
if you find the best in their pinnacop their careers.
We talked about Kareem and Woke Chamberlain, and then if
you took Shack and his prime, I think when he
played for the Lakers after his prime more so than
when he played at at Orlando or Miami or or Boston.

(31:58):
If you took it at Wolf Chamberlain. You know, guys
played one on one basketball in the park. Put on
Shack and Wilk Chamberlain. That's must see basketball. But and
you're opining at the referee, who would you see dominate
in that series of thoughts?

Speaker 3 (32:11):
Uh? Physically, of course it'd be Shack. But athletically, Wilt
walks walks over. He was as much much much quicker.
You know, he had had feet, he had good hands. Yeah,
I Will and I and I wasn't a wild chamber
of Plant fan growing up.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Really why not I became?

Speaker 3 (32:27):
I became a Chamberlain fan as I as I grew up.
Why one? What he did?

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Why did your chance to become a fan of your thoughts?

Speaker 3 (32:35):
Because of just watching watching the videos of him when
he was younger. You know when you when you when
you high jumping into a sand pit, Yeah, you know
you seven feet talls. That takes a lot of fun.
But but even coming coming just coming down off that
uh from over that bar, being able to do what
you do with your body. You know, Shaqa moved moved
his body just in in that lane. He did it

(32:57):
very well. Yeah, but Will had the ability to get
out outside that lane and become and be dangerous. Yeah,
so that's what I like about more about you know,
Wilt than than Check. But uh, personality wise, I always
loved Ship. Wilt was just two coffee. Check is always in.
He's that person that's looking kind of like I am. Yeah,

(33:18):
you know you want to help, You want to help out,
want to help Olough. We want to have we want
to have fun while we're out here. Yeah, you know,
check check checks. I don't need to shoot it will
it cost three hundred dollars? I need to shoot if
people can put to k Martin.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
Yeah, that's true. You need something that everybody, the average
person kind of affords. I want to take you into
this time because after the officier, you see things and
you hear things that the average fan doesn't hear. So,
I know you talked about the great Bill Ruffo, how
they wanted the eleven champions, but there was not as
many teams back then.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
But also you got to.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
Win by winning, and he was a winner. And then
I look at another player that was very very twn
deck and I talk about Kareem. I still think Kreem
and my opinion, just because he the style of the skuy,
no one can emulate that and I love the way
he played, and he Kareem could have scored a lot
more than what he ever even though will average fifty
five one year.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
But Kareem could have scored a lot.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
But he has so many great players around him, from
Matthew Johnson by Ruscott Worthy, they had all the great players.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
So he had a lot of players he could pass
the ball.

Speaker 4 (34:18):
To give me your opinion if there will ever be
another Korean because people want to shoot the three. Now,
the big cat Carl Alllonton Towns, he's seven feet tall,
but he read to shoot the three then drop the basket.
Kevin Durant, big guy, not as physical, but he'll put
up in here of three, but no one outside of him.
My opinion of Kareem abdu Jabbar has mastered this guy hook.

(34:40):
Will we ever see that again because he's a leadial
scorer in the history of the NBA from the two
point basket perspective of your thoughts?

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Now, won't we won't see that again? Because's gonna work
on that. That's a big deal. It work. Did he
put in in back in the day? It was work?
Did he put in? And I promise you it was elite.
But we don't have the ar aren't stupid screwing up today? Okay,
my children go up today. They don't have that work ethic.
They don't want to do the same thing over and over.
They don't want to do George Mike and who you

(35:09):
know perform that move using that backboard you need to go.
Nobody wants to do that. They don't want to go outside.
So no, I don't think that's every I think that's untouchable.
I could be wrong. I don't have trouble being wrong though,
based on being in the public school for the last
thirty years, I know these kids are aren't working it
like that anymore. So they're doing they're doing things. They're

(35:31):
they're doing things against that it's never been done. I
mean that everyone else is doing. Back in the day,
we call them driveway shooters.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
You now see people who are flat footed when they
catch the ball and you see them put up a
shot and they may have a two or three inch
rise own that shot. Yeah, back in the day and
l Boss David Thompson on the jump shot and you
say shoot at the top of your at the top
of your jump. David had to wait again for about
thirty six inches before he could release that. We don't
see that. We don't see that jump shot, right, So

(36:02):
that's Skyle hook. That's Skyle hook. You know it was
hard to defend. Every now and then somebody who get
lucky and block.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yeah, sometimes that was not the norm. Not the norm.
I tell you, I appreciate you very much, the great
timmy young professional and collegiate rep.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
I would think if anyone could master the sky hook,
I would have thought it would be Kevin durant Ri
Jannis ont Dakuple.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
They have the same kind of similar frames that can
even have back.

Speaker 4 (36:27):
In the name of his plan, I want to make
a transition into the role of college football because there
are so many great athletes that are out in the
world of college football.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
You know we have You can only put so many
guys on the team.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
And even when you have a great starting lineup offensive league,
defensive league, you have guys on the bench that could
get the NFL jobs if they get the opportunity, but
they may not fit the soule in the NFL. But
give me your opinion growing up and as an official,
tell me some of the top running back that you've seen,
and then I want to get into how guys are

(37:03):
getting paid. But some of the top running backs that
you've seen on the college level that maybe did not
make that same splash in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
Your thoughts, Oh, oh, that's a good one. Uh, at
least seen quite a few of them. And most of
them come out of the northern schools. Yeah, yeah, because
the course from the South for some reason that they
continue to build.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
But I can't think of media the names right now
of the of the ones who the could have been, yeah,
because it's so in so many of those, But we
definitely have the ones who didn't make it. Let me
think of somebody.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
What about a Marcus Dupree that played at Oklahoma and
I know he had an injury, but I remember seeing
him in the Plumbowl against Arizona State and I thought,
who in the world is this guy, Marcus dupre Obviously
you're a hit away from a bad knee or whatever
happens in the NFL that takes away that extra hitch
in your gidea up.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
But I thought he was going to be maybe the
next Earl in the NFL, but that didn't materialize.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
Their thoughts, No, Mark, Marcus had had a pretty easy
had a pretty easy going through high school. He ou
and all of a sudden he gotta work, you know.
But his attitude was, you know, well, I don't need
to work and I'm already better than everybody else, and
so that that kind of that kind of got to him.
But you know, Marcus is somebody that I that I

(38:22):
know in communicate with, you know, every every now and then.
But Marcus was a great player. He was in the
title of his thirty for thirty it was called the
Best had Never Lost. That was the best title ever.
But his his situation, he's a freak. First of all.
When you six foot three, you two hundred and forty

(38:43):
pounds and you lot up in the battlefield with Steve
Sewell six foot three, twenty five, who in the world
wants to tackle something, you know, that backfield? But he yeah,
he definitely by far. And I don't know why his
name didn't come to my mind because I'll see him
seeing seeing him as successful in the league, which he
which he never read. He walks. Yeah, but he was
by far the best because the first time I was

(39:04):
the first time I saw it, I'm like, you give
to me.

Speaker 9 (39:07):
Be joking, how you gonna be warning number twenty two
and you.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
And they played on that old artificial tournament Oklahoma where
it's like running on the carpet at home, and didn't
have that cushion that they have now with other rubber
tires chewed up. But I thought when I saw he
was a great player, it reminded me some of the
late Sam Bam Cunningham that played under coach John McKay
at USC back of the day that's when they beat
Alabama and made the Paul bred Bryant say, I got

(39:34):
to get me some of them.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Sam Bam Cuningham was amazing at USC.

Speaker 4 (39:39):
Good NFL player, but obviously the competency gets tougher, but
he market the pre somewhat similar to your thoughts.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Any comparison with those two guys, Well.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
You know they both had great signs. Yeah, they've both
had great size get you know, big hands and you
can secure the ball. Sammam was he was I love watching.
I think it was number thirty nine.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
Yeah, you know he was.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
He was a lot of fun to watch. Yeah, But
like I said, when you get to that other level,
there's something that is created there. You know, you can
get hit by uh, you know, Joe Bob Smith in college. Yeah,
you know, in the field, when you get in the NFL,
you're gonna get hit every single game. And then in
the opposed and keep it is always gonna have some
bigger defenders. And so whenever you event what as a

(40:21):
running back, you get the ball, you already get a
target on you that you know you've been hit. Yeah,
on top of the hit, it's not just a hit
that you take going to the grounds. Those words that
come from that person who hits you, that's still talking
the trash to you, and after you get talked to
for so long, you kind of give up. As George
Forman when he thought a league would happen, Yeah, yeah,

(40:44):
those those words are a pretty tough to overcome. But
that's what he was, That's what he You know what
these athletes have to deal with.

Speaker 4 (40:52):
Yeah, you know, the great Oklahoma back of the day various.
So they have to r running like Billy Sam. I
remember Billy Sam doing his thing for the University of Oklahoma, and.

Speaker 12 (41:00):
Then growing up I was on the West Coast seeing
guys like OJ Simpson, who was also a six two
hundred and twenty pounds running back that ran about a
ten three hundred meters dash at that kind of slaze
of speed.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
The juice was the real deal.

Speaker 4 (41:14):
Played at City College in San Francisco before he went
the USC. Have you ever seen another player like an Oja.
Not only was it great in college, but he left
the NFL and rushing. One of the first guys to
rustle over two thousand yards and he did that in
the snow.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
Your thoughts and what the Jews was doing back in
the day was unheard of. He was before his time.
He was He was always my favorite running back, you know,
back in the early seventies. Yeah, but yeah, he had
it going on. He was just you know, I don't
know about his work antic, but the only person I
can the person that comes to my mind is all

(41:49):
day Adrian Petersha. I got a chance to be in
the practices with him. You know, we're going through the
Big twelve program of training.

Speaker 5 (41:56):
Beer.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
I saw him do a move twenty yards downfield. He's running,
you know, he's going full speed and he breaks he
breaks open and he goes down that left side line
or going toward the sideline, about twenty yards down field.
And the defender, this guy's name was DJ wood Broke
down ready to make a tackle. Man AD ran straight
at him one hundred percent, I mean full speed. He

(42:19):
got three feet in front of him and DJ begins
to lunch to make a tackle. AD does a three sixty.
He does are three sixty. This is the DJ does
a face plant and this is in practice, and we
know not to see this on anybody's video. Right ab
to have win and he goes all we you know,
goes in for a touchdown. I've never seen somebody do

(42:41):
a three sixty full speed. And we're not talking about
somebody light person. Were talking about a d You know
what was he sixty two? About two point thirty. He
is full of speed going that year and he makes
that turn. Now that was a great running back.

Speaker 6 (42:56):
You know.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
All he gonna do is just give me the ball,
Give me the ball. He had and he wasn't that
player to raise his hand after running. You know, keim
yards and I need him out of gating coach, No,
you see him win the ball change times. You can't, Okay,
learn how that stuff? We get going on to late
hand raid. What'd you raise your hand for? A boy?

Speaker 9 (43:14):
Question?

Speaker 3 (43:15):
Soccer?

Speaker 10 (43:17):
Did the great Jim.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Young professional official also collegiate deficient.

Speaker 4 (43:21):
You know, I never saw ed Dickerson play in high school,
but I did see the Pony Express creg jams.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Eric Dickerson at SMU.

Speaker 4 (43:29):
Obviously, SMU had one of the best one two combination
maybe ever in the world of college football.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
I like USC when they had Linda White and Reggie Bush.

Speaker 4 (43:41):
But when I look at what happened with the correct
Differenson about six two sixty three to run two hund
twenty pounds to run probably a ten three ten four
hundred meters, very shifty. He wasn't fast quick like after
the you know, ad Adrian Peterson, but he was more
of a gladder like a Marcus Allen back of the
day when he played at USC and then also played
for the Raiders.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
In Kansas City.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
Seef, give me your feeling on that kind of player.
Eric Dickerson could play for any university. And then I
want to ask you about players getting paid because he
was so talented, and a lot of players are talented,
and some players got in trouble because somebody gave them
a steak dinner or some tennis shoes when they maybe

(44:23):
should not have that slave mentality.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Don't feed them, just just run them. To the death
of your thoughts.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
Yeah, Eric Differson, you know the thing that you mentioned,
he has some great qualities. Let me tell you what,
man he had that Jerry Juice drift.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Yeah we all did to me, we all did at
one time.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
To I never did. Yeah, I wasn't that fortunate or unfortunately,
No Eric Differson to play on anyone's team. He was
a tough runner.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
And when I mean he played with you know, with
Chris Yeah, yeah, yeah, he Craig James.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
They put it on watching the Pony Express thirty for thirty.
That was the second best thirty for thirty that I've
ever seen, because you know, but Eric hadda going on
and what they and what they did, they did it
so badly. They disrupted the university, the University of Texas's supremacy. Okay, yeah,

(45:18):
And so it was it was if you notice, I
don't know if you knew this, and we'll just make
some connections here. You've got the death corny not just
because of the paying the players, but they took it
upkin because they was building in the program that was
going to pick over the Longhorns in that Southwest Conference.
Now here's here's something you may not have known at
that time. The president of the NCAA was an alarm

(45:41):
from the University of Texas. Okay, so that's all there too.
But you know, as you see that in the you know,
as we lost that thirty for thirty the twenty Express,
you know they were paying players back then. Oh yeah,
that's nothing. That's not new. They were. They were doing it.
It was necessary, but I put it. And this is

(46:03):
in nineteen eighty three, and my roommate at Oklahoma State
had had teammates from high school who's playing for SNU.
So I'm spending the summer, you know, and Dallas saying
we're gonna go over and work out. So we gotta
go to SMU and work out. And I'm driving and
so I get there and I turned left into the
parking lot and then I get it and I just stopped.
He said, what's you doing? I said, and we can't go.
He said, men, come on the cheap on, let's go.

(46:24):
I said, well, we can't go in the coaches are here.
He said, we can't go to with these coaches. He says,
no coaches, here's nothing but the players.

Speaker 9 (46:30):
I say, man, I'm like going, I'm not getting in trouble.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
We can't be on this field with coaches from another school.
That's illegal. He said, Man, ain't nobody here, keep just go.
And so let me tell you what I saw when
I pulled in. I saw corvettes. I saw there to
an easy X, which was a new car back in
that time. I saw the Mercedes, I saw the Audias,

(46:52):
I saw the BMW's. I said, we can't go to
with these coaches.

Speaker 9 (46:56):
My friend said, hey, no coaches, every man. Those the
players cars.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
And they were not used second hand like a lot
of Yeah, well it may have.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
And the name owner was really funny. It's e W
E L L.

Speaker 10 (47:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (47:12):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
So so I had a car lot there in Holland
Park for Dallas, and I mean big money.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
And so so as you talk about you know, players
in money, maybe man maybe muge being kicked me out
for many years.

Speaker 4 (47:24):
Yeah yeah, I want to ask you this to me
because as an African American, the NFL only awards like point,
it's like half of one percent to black owned media
to cover and even broadcast NFL games. People are gonna
say that's not true. I see black fannounces all the time.
They don't own the network. They're all white on networks.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
I'm trying.

Speaker 4 (47:43):
My petition is with the NFL and Roger Goodell to
grap me media credensers for all thirty two games or
all thirty two teams. Sometimes they say it's up to
the team. But if the NFL gives you the green light,
you have the green light. And that's what I'm asking for.
As a black owned basically sports corporation, I want to say,
in my opinion, you have your own.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
We don't have to agree. But when the universities year.

Speaker 4 (48:06):
After year could take white coach after white coach and
make them multi millionaires only because they started recruiting black athletes,
like Paul bear Bryant said, I got to get me.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Some of those sec was all white back in the day.

Speaker 4 (48:19):
I think it was Western Kentucky that had a all
black team, the first all black team in basketball.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
But when I look at the fact that this white
oligarchy that's allowed.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
White men to go from school to school to school,
even the late the latest one of no name Brian
Kelly at LSU.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
He was at Notre Dame.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
But we know Nick Saban, He's been at coaching different programs.
Of course, lately. You know, he was at LSU back
in the day, he also and then ended up making
Alabama so great.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
I got to look at the.

Speaker 4 (48:50):
Coaches all over the world and all over the countries
that have done that, never any pushback. Even right now
Belichick over ready to do. Of course, no longer an
NFL coach, but he's gonna get his son a job.
Back in the day, Jimmy Johnson, he started at Oklahoma State,
went to Miami and made them a superpower. There are
a lot of white coaches after white coaches that have

(49:13):
been allowed to do that, and people say, what a
great coach. But the one thing they all have in common,
they would go to the inner city and get the
best black athlete they could find. All the times, guys
that were struggling financially because of racism, and jim grow
and then these white institutions they want to promise a
black man if he even tried to live like a
white man, eat the steak for dinner as opposed to

(49:34):
boloney sandwich.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
Your thoughts, But you know that's that's that's interesting. But yeah,
I've seen these I've seen these folks climb the latter
Jimmy Johnson was with my college coach. Yeah, uh Fronach stage.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
And you know that was a step in stepping stone
for him. You know, he came to he did five
years and went on to Miami and then he stepped
over to the you know, to the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
But watching how these folks do it. When I like
about Nick Saban going into Alabama, you know, and all
and all of the success has come off the backs
of the of the folks who have melaniic skin. All
of the success. Okay, we had a we had a
teacher told that told us one time once one time
that Keen and Lee vote Pennsylvania, West Virginia, and Ohio
had the best athletes in the world for in America.

(50:18):
I don't know, get it out of that stuff, man.
But anyway, but when you watch what Nick Saven did
in Alabama, I believe this is this is the why philosophy.
Nick Saven had won the championship with l s U
then he went to the Miami Dolphins. Before he went
to the Alabama he knew he knows something about the South.
And because during the whole time he was there, you

(50:40):
will not read any reports where there was any type
of racism or anything out of line happening in Alabama.
It didn't make the news. It didn't make the news
because I believe he had an agreement if I come here,
I'm gonna build this program, and I don't want none
of this stuff to interrupt, because when you do that,
we got some issues because what we see and hear
in Oclaho about every four to six years, you see

(51:04):
something that takes place at OU and racially motivated, and
if I'm a parent of a of a five star recruit,
I'm not gonna send him Oklahoma where that continues to happen.
We had to singing on the bus, you know, from
that fraternity. Then a few years prior to that, we
had the hottest running back in America, some kid named

(51:24):
Joe Mixing. So Joe Mixing is there and little girl
moles off to him and just recalls him the N words,
you know, and just slaur it at it. And so
he just kind of just talk the one time. Okay,
she did something to provote that before that. Anyway, So
whenever you have situations like that, and in all and all,
and we hear it in the media, sometimes people will

(51:45):
say Senator may say Lebron James E that have just
just dribbled the basketball. Don't say thing about politics. Dribble
the ball. That's not what we're here to do.

Speaker 4 (51:55):
And so I'm not I'm not a big things a
lower egam and Fox Sports with her race itself, then
just set up and dribble at that.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
He has a zem cope that them were back in
the in the nineteen forties.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
Their thoughts, Well, that's that's that's the intro where I'm going.
That mentality is old. Okay. We have people who are
educated nowadays. Okay, and even they've always been educated, but
they've that perception is through the media that black folks
don't have the intelligence. Well, unfortunately, there's scientific proof that
we have the intelligence. But then but holding other people back,

(52:29):
you know, I understand the coaching, Yeah, okay, whenever they said,
well you need to at least interview a coach. Now
you know, the owner owns the team. They choose to do,
and they choose to do.

Speaker 10 (52:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
Now the officiating, you see, it's the same thing there.
We have people officiating and you know, I'll look at
it from from with the front row seat. Yeah, I'm
like all these brothers on this field, Okay, we got
a team that brings this to say they travel seventy
five people, Well you got it about sixty five. I'm
going to be a melleniabor Yeah, okay. But the community

(53:04):
at the game officials, you going through that crew of
you know, seven, eight nine, Yeah, you get one or
two brothers. Yeah, it's the same. It's the same inteality
that right there. That's just that's just the good old
boy network. Yes all that is, yeah, but it does work.
But do we know how do you get equality whenever

(53:25):
you're dealing with somebody who owns the NFL.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
Yeah, they own the NF Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (53:29):
And that's why I want to after you in the
in the next few minutes to me get about five
minutes left.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
Even in me a black owned corporation, I work for myself.

Speaker 4 (53:40):
But I worked with Fox, CBS, NBC, ESPN back in
the day as an independent contractor, and now I have
my own platform. Ten years never met the show on
the on the major networks. And if you can look
back over the years, that's how opportunity is created. We

(54:00):
notice the cronyism, the nepotism, the good old white network
that's opened up the.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
Doors for a lot of white guys.

Speaker 4 (54:07):
Fortunately, there have been some white men and white women
that have opened doors for me too. I'm not knocking
to that, and I'm very grateful for that. At the
same time, they don't have to do anything, but legally
the league would benefit by aligning another sphere of influence
to bring them more fans because a lot of young
men and women that they're tuning out the NFL.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
There wasn't on the app.

Speaker 4 (54:30):
They don't want to see the old, the same old
arligarchy of players that are play by player, they are
all white for the most part, and they don't have
the same flavor. There's some good guys too, but black
men when it cuts to music and entertainment, when you
take the handcuffs off, we have so much flavor. Even
the whole world has copied our style of music, singing
and dancing your thoughts.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
Yeah, you know, I'm gonna just say. The name is
Jackie Robinson. What is he famous for?

Speaker 2 (54:55):
The baseball of riching? Let him in? Is still well
elead money from the black leagues.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
Somebody, Sorry, you didn't answer that correctly. You're supposed to
say he was the first bag to play baseball, Okay, so,
but as you but as you said, he was the
first one allowed allowed and that's what we deal with.
We're gonna allow you to come in. We're gonna allow
and this and this is the way that is set

(55:21):
up in the way. I'll recognize that when you see
the word allow that you're gonna see the three letters
after y O you we're gonna allow you, allow you.
We're not gonna allow y'all.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Yeah, I got.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
So you're gonna get one or two who gets that break.
But the thing about it, once you get that break,
pass that break. Homan Byron Byron Allen. He had opportunity
and he and he's done well. But when we get
the opportunity to take advantage of them, because you know,
as an as an NFL coach, if you don't do well,

(55:56):
you know you you done, brother, Yes, you know. But
you got some people they'll they'll they'll shop you with
every every major city keeping them in the league. You know,
Thibodeau is not going to have an issue finding a
job exactly Byron. Yeah, Byron Scott did not get it.
He didn't stick around. There's been many people who didn't

(56:18):
get a chance to stick around real long time. Next
Jason Key had taken advantage of it. But it's based
on what people will allow. But you know, you having
your own radio uh, your radio show. You you know
you're a professional.

Speaker 9 (56:31):
You see, you seek clearly, you do all the things
that are right.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
You know, all you need is a break. You know
what I'm saying. You just need a break. And it's
unfortunately it depends on somebody else. But you know, I'm
a believer in the Creator. Believe I put my faith
in the in the Creator to open the doors necessary
to move forward, because you know, what you bring to
the table, you know, is expertise. We're not talking about

(56:56):
when I turned when I turned the TV on ESPN,
I'm watching these people who has never gain you with football, right,
talking about football?

Speaker 9 (57:02):
Right?

Speaker 2 (57:03):
Yeah, I understand it.

Speaker 4 (57:06):
Well, Timmy in the in the foinal minute, thank you
for the compliments. God has already opened the door. Even
even being ten years of the black owned corporation on
major networks, I haven't swunk. I've expanded. They've pulled it
in because they make money off of the advertising of it.
And I just give God the praise for that. And
I do want to say I want to open more
doors for more people to coach. And I am like yourself.

(57:26):
The other professionals that I know, as long as they
know their stuff, you can dust for this. All the
people you know that around the NFL and college forts.
We have no scripts, we have no teleprompters. I'm not
sick next to you. I can't see your gestures. We're
about two thousand miles away from each other. I'm in California,
you're in Oklahoma. And we can do this without any coaching.

(57:46):
There's no producer, no teleprompters, no chiron assists, nobody writing
script for us. If we can have a conversation like this,
and we can do as well as anybody else getting
four or five million dollars or even fifteen million dollars,
and they got telepromptu producers in the ear, they got Chiron,
as says, they got script writers, and they still can't
do it.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
If the chirine goes down your thoughts, no.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
Said they. What we see is entertainment in the media.
That's just entertainment, you know, whenever we're just shooting from
the hills. Okay, I need a shirt to say there's
no scripts.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Yes, so I don't have a strip.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
Is coming from the heart, you know, yes, And so
we provide you know, that authenticity and I still call
that a authentic intelligence. And so when we when we
I PRAI and that type of AI, you know, it's
it's much better. It's a cleaner is more entertainment because
you get a chance to hear some of the real stuff.

Speaker 5 (58:41):
You know.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
Here here, here's something do we have Do we have
a moment to be for me to drop in and
talking about college pay?

Speaker 2 (58:47):
Go ahead?

Speaker 9 (58:48):
So and and just in looking at all the things
that that's going on and how people are paid.

Speaker 3 (58:54):
Okay, I know, I know if a coach who who
would uh have rangements with with restaurants and the players
that go there and take the dates okay and go
in and get a bite to eat, and they just
put on his tab, all right. So that's a form
of payment that was going on back then. And so
you look at the look at the path of that

(59:14):
of those coaches who were able to do that, and
they still living today, they still right there in front
in your face. You know, we have players who had
alumnis will get them a job. Well here here here's
here's one of my one of my fund that one
of the funniest things I've ever heard in my life.
I don't know about funding, but interesting. And so whenever
you're working at a car wash and alumni comes in

(59:36):
and and needs his car claim, and they always make
sure that you clean the carpet underneath the format and
the driver's side, right, that money is okay, that's how
you pick okay. So now we now, so they've been
paying these people all alone. But what happens from these
people when they're not performing anymore? They're not the TV
ratings are out there, they don't have all the interviews.

(59:58):
What are they doing? That's part that gets to me.

Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
Yeah, well, I want to ask a person who I
want to ask you, Timmy, And by the next two
minutes the two minute warning for the program, I want
to ask you make a proclamation to Roger Goodelle why
a black owned corporation should be allowed to do NFL
football play by play, post game and even pregame is
part of something that the time is now.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
The time is now.

Speaker 4 (01:00:23):
What would be your speech, as a well spoken black
man that's been around the game for many, many moons,
It's time to open that door.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
We've been doing this for a long time. On opposite
ends of the world.

Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
But what's your proclamation to the NFL as to why
it benefits them to be the Jackie Robinson moment. And
when you open that door for more black men broadcasting,
you're going to open the financial pockets also for a
lot right people to follow the game.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
Your thoughts, Hey, that's my fault right there. You're going
to open up the pocket books. Okay, You're going to
have more advertising going on. You can have more viewers
because there's somebody who looks like me on TV. It's
the same way when you.

Speaker 9 (01:00:58):
Go to the library.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
You don't see a book that looks like you, a
book that's nothing to read, like you don't tell your story,
there's no it's no interesting reading. So whenever you have
these uh into the league, you know, goodall look here, man,
the more the more coverage you get out there to
reach all the communities of our of our cousins. Who's
at the game. I don't know very many people, very
many people who come from the American slave nation, melanated

(01:01:24):
people who don't have a bunch of cousins. Okay, And
so you're gonna bring people in. You're gonna be bringing
more people in because you have coverage, because we're gonna cover.
We're gonna cover you know, the people who look like us.
I'm gonna you know, we're gonna have a there's a
section right that's that's being omitted. Well, why are you
gonna omit the people who's who's there were talking about

(01:01:46):
future players coming up. There's gonna go to the league.
The see an opportunity to at least listen, you know,
to the media. So having having coverage, you know, having
more black on media, I think it's something it's pretty simple.
You know, you just open the door up now, even
if you just want to crack the door and just
let one or two come in, or maybe twenty and thirty,

(01:02:09):
but you're still not going to have the same coverage
as comparison, because there's thousands of media coverages out there
and they're only a small percentage. I said, whether with
count five percent back home?

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
Yeah point one over.

Speaker 9 (01:02:21):
Yeah, you know, if we even just say, let let
us please, let us.

Speaker 3 (01:02:25):
Give us an opportunity to get to two percent, you
know it looks like, yeah, you look like a four
percent of five percent. Give us an opportunity, because if
we're not able to bring more money to the league,
then you can you can justify getting rid of you
because al it's going to take places. It's always gonna
be more money that's going to be brown in because
of the of the voices that's being heart and he's
going to be listening to these people.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
You can only reha the white voice. So many signs
of white dollar.

Speaker 4 (01:02:49):
Just like an entertainment, there are no when you got
to go impromptu and you don't have someone telling you
what to say.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
There's no talent like black talent in the world. And
that's the fact.

Speaker 4 (01:02:58):
That's why they end, that's why they industry. The music
indu is dominated by black men and black women. A
lot come out of the church. We speak with a spirit.
You need to bring that to the NFL if you
want to grow the dollar. There's a lot of money
in the black community, like trillions of dollars. But when
you don't see someone who looks like you, they tuned
in those old guys out.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
It's just getting old. Hey, well that's my story. I'm
ticking with it. I want to say thank you to
the great Tim Young and closing thirty.

Speaker 4 (01:03:22):
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Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
What can we get that stuff?

Speaker 10 (01:03:28):
And what's it called?

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
Tim We get ducks.

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Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
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Speaker 10 (01:04:32):
Put it on your own burger.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
Timmy Young and joined in the Big sk Sports.

Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
I'm gonna take what's called the Big Seed pause, also
known at the Big Seed time out.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
I'll be back. It's just a moment. Thank you to
me having a super fantastic day.

Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
Hey, thank you much good bless you got black.

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But not only that, we have Attorney George Jones Esquire
now he's the chair of the California Black Chamber of Commerce,
also of California Black Chamber of Commerce Foundation. But also
he endorses the RDC team. But not only that, we
have Attorni's got tibidoo. He's one of the top of

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thy planners in all the Cantornia and he endorses the
RDC team.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
But not only that, we have Leon Woods that he's
a pastor.

Speaker 4 (01:11:34):
He also knows many of the top wappyists at the
big Capitol of California and he endorses the RDC team.
But not only that, we have missus Cheryl Brown that
he's a chair of the California Department of Aging. You
know she endorses the RDC team. But not only that,
she did a trust for the RDC team. If that

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makes sense to you can't get much higher on her
than that. But not only that, we have Alan de Lagreuz,
and he's the founder of American Veteran Benefits, teaching not
veterans how to get their benefits, and he endorses the
RDC team.

Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
But not only that, we have regular cruds. He's the
president of Resource Development Assaulting Age, been doing his thing,
going to have thirty five years with the highest endorsements
in the state of California and by the government's handbooks.

Speaker 4 (01:12:20):
That he endorses the RDC team. But not only that,
he does it by the government's hand books and that's
why it has those endorsements. Fax Telling Story Sell But
not only that, we have O. She's a payot committee
for the National Black Walthley Project. She's also a business
development assaultant with the best line business funding and the

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RDC team, and she volunteers with c Jack a call
listen for just Inevitable California.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
But not only that, has her own economics of learning
to talk so called.

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Let's each you can google it, uneccess, sacrament of dot
org and kub United, sax point five and e Private
dot net. He's also starting a new platform to bring
your show around hers and she endorses the RDC team,
But not only that you have Charleston Curry.

Speaker 10 (01:13:04):
Isn't that your six sis?

Speaker 4 (01:13:06):
I'm Big Steve when i'm ha my case and I
endorse the RDC team. I'm the co chair of the
National Black Wealthy Project. I do volunteer work for Cjack,
a coalition for just in Equitable California. I'm business available,
assaultant with the RDC team and best line business funding.
But not only that Gruber has it. That's not what

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your country can do for you, as for you can
do for you. I'm the only person show off for
you careers insurance in catch, advanced and asset protection in the.

Speaker 11 (01:13:39):
Black hole in the universe. You've got to get that
some praise.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
I say, give it praise, great praise.

Speaker 4 (01:13:46):
Because of mine is a trouble with innuas and I
endorse the RDC team and you should too. I'm looking
for ten thousand agents and brokers that want to go
to work.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
How many how many ex athletes offer your work?

Speaker 4 (01:14:00):
The Big C team does unsecured working capital, best line
business funding, a business loan or funeral company approve.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
Of a less than an hour but the same day funding.

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I'd have needed to qualify four months base stations five
thousand dollars minim.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
Monthly revenue to your business checking account six months in business,
bestline business funding. We specialize at unsecured working capital up.

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
To five million dollars, no collateral, no appraisal, no profit.

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Loss, no wh you, no jax paturnity. We have early
playoff buscounts if we can fund them one day. We
also import your payment to your done in bradfeed improve
your business credit.

Speaker 10 (01:14:40):
You gotta get that some praise.

Speaker 4 (01:14:42):
Eight hundred and seven severn two eight sixty two for
that eight hundred seventh every two eighty six twenty four.
Just tell them, just tell them big seatentions. Well, that's
my story and I'm taking with it. You know, always
offer I'll always offer praise and opportunities to anybody looking
for opportunities to join a workforce. You can start a
career with the Big C team in all fifty states

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and Canada.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
We're in Old Canada, our home man land.

Speaker 4 (01:15:12):
Best line Business Swimming also spanning in Canada. You can
join the Big C Team eight hundred and seven seven
two eight sixty four eight hundred and seven seven two
a sixty four.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
That's my story and I'm thinking with it.

Speaker 4 (01:15:24):
But as I always tell you on every Basy Sports podcast,
I love paying homage to a lot of the people
that open doors for me and I know who they are,
and that's why on every Basy Sports podcast, I want
to make sure that I get that praise. On my
mother's side, my great grandparents Mamo and Flop, beautiful loving
kind people, always offering lots of love in the family

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and lots of food and the belly and loved them
with all my body and sold my beautiful grandparents Muddy
and Hezeki and beautiful, loving kind of people, always offering
lots of love in the family and lots of food
in the billy neighbors sears they can off the top
of look at a person and tell you a lot
about their past, their present, in their future.

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
Loves them with all my heart, my body and soul.
And that can always depend.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
On my mama, the most beautiful Mama that God ever
made with his own hands into history on the universe
n of the head Start program, a food program and
also coaching awfs and literally baseball team to the championship
of the Universe.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
Yeah, my Mama's on praise. I say give him praise, praise, praise.

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
Yet, my mama's a braid, always saying to God for
all the land to thou sees.

Speaker 10 (01:16:29):
Will I give you and I see forever?

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
Always praise God, always kind of God.

Speaker 4 (01:16:36):
The best person I ever met in my life, My
dear Mama, I love you with all my heart, mind,
body and soul. On my father's side, my grandparents abut
and I heard a career every pastors. They had two churches,
make that three churches. They own two gas stations, and
he also owned forty acres of land. I was about
eight years old, walk up to a hallway in Oakland,

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about ten o'clck at night. I saw somebody touch me.

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
On my forehead. She said, what are you doing, young man?
Going against your cookies? I said, what are you doing?

Speaker 10 (01:17:06):
Grandma?

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
It's ten o'clock at night. You you normally go to
better there at thirty. She said, what are you doing,
young man?

Speaker 3 (01:17:11):
Going against the cookies?

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
I said, cookies? I baby grapped it. What I'm doing, GM,
I'm gonna get my reparation.

Speaker 4 (01:17:17):
Blet a couple of cookies with hurd. It's been a
long way. Loved them with all my heart, my body,
and sold my beautiful father. Former United States Air Force
Fight and flight, that chief mechanic, always making sure planes
can fly high, see you get all, stay safe to night,
always saying, develop your mind to the highest extent. My
dad's a forced one. And tell me about the SR

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seventy one and blackbird. It can fly from Los Angeles
to Washington, DC in one hour and four minutes. That
play was fast like lightning. That play was so fast,
and then they have it hanging out to museums. Loved
my dad with all my heart, my body, and sold
my beautiful brother tied. But that bum back to the voice,
always talking sports on politics. Tom sports was like thundal

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and lightning with but speak a voracious reader, always say
and go forward tight. I love you with all my heart,
my body, and sold my beautiful daughter Daisy, the most
beautiful daughter that God ever made with his own hands
in the history of the university college graduates two degrees
with honors in three and a half years from a
major university swimmer Come lie in. Daisy set up the

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very first interview with b C Sports back in the
day in Salem Media. He became the first time in
the history of the United States that NFL money that
football started broadcasting live on the Wall Street Business Network.
They had never done that before until two Black men
of the truth throughout doing their thing. Days, you can
be anything you want to be. I love you with
all my heart, my body and soul. And Daisy also
a great athlete in high school. She scored six goals

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on the soccer game. It was Daisy with a dribble,
Daisy with a kick, Daisy with the go, go, go
go go if the team won the game. Days, you
can always win in life. Always trust God, always kind
of God. I love you with all my heart, my
own body and soul. I pray that no weap but
from against your prosper You could be anything you want

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to be. Always trust God, always kind of God. I
love you but all my body, and so my beautiful
has some sudden Malcolm, the most assome son that God
ever made with his own hands in the history from
in universe, college graduate, very smart area night and Malcolm,
you're a good man. You can do anything you want
to do in life. Always ask God, always kind on God.

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I pray Isaiah fifty four to seventeen. I pray that
no wepupuming against the event prospert. You could be anything
you want to be, Malcolm, help me save trees. It's
always get the newspapers and look up stats on players
and teams in BIGC Sports. And one day Macaum said, Dad,
why you just google it?

Speaker 8 (01:19:43):
In a life of no.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
No, I've been googling ever.

Speaker 4 (01:19:46):
Since and now I'm on thirty two podcast platforms and
three minine and six TV platforms. Macolm one day, heading
up to the high school, he said, he said, Dad,
I said yes, son, He said, you want to see
BIGC Sports on TV? I said sure, he said, pick
up the remote, aiming at the TV and saying play
Big C Sports.

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
You see your show come up.

Speaker 4 (01:20:05):
That's before even on the air, and shortly after that
you can find a streaming of for a TV platforms Expinity,
Come Catch TV, Apple TV, Vocal TV, and Amazon on
Fire TV and now at the Zone TV and JD
Free TV coming from the Limited TV mak. You can
be anything you want to be. Always trust God, always
kind of God. Stay away from negative people. Don't let
negative people bring it down. Negative people suck. Don't listen

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to anybody who talks crap about somebody when that person's
not there.

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
You can be anything you want to be. I love
you with all my heart.

Speaker 4 (01:20:32):
My body is so and then big c with all
that both the dollars over the years, like my great
grandparents coming out of that barn with their church buddies
always said, you gotta.

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
Believe, you gotta believe, you gotta believe. Say he left.

Speaker 10 (01:20:44):
Get ready come on in NFL to rumble.

Speaker 9 (01:20:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
I love saying welcome to the show and be nominated
things sus podcast. I have those scripts. I have no
three man dollar prompts. I have no producer in my ear.
All I have is glad in the brain calls a
penal glad. The ancients told him to.

Speaker 9 (01:21:05):
Throw it out.

Speaker 4 (01:21:06):
They said, that's how you talked to God. That's why
I skims on loud and I talk, so says God.
I want you to hear my praise. You said for
all the land that thou seins, will I give you?
And I see, Father, I love your God and I
trust you God.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
That's my story and I'm taken with it. I always pay.
I'm go to the best fighter to ever work.

Speaker 10 (01:21:25):
The pattern is that?

Speaker 11 (01:21:26):
Do I said it?

Speaker 2 (01:21:27):
See No, that's not DoD fitter. Do I vner use
the force. I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:21:31):
Back in the day, there's a man known by the
name of Drew Udini Brown. He's known his BA I
leave right hand man.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
He would always tell, I leave you float egg.

Speaker 1 (01:21:40):
A butterfly, and you sting like a beat rouble young man, brother,
he said, but all you've got to use?

Speaker 8 (01:21:46):
How can you lose all?

Speaker 4 (01:21:47):
He said, I'm so pretty, I can't possibly even beat.
And every time I listen to me supports I want
to shout reparations now, reparations forever.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
And then I saw like a butter fly, and I
seemed like, I mean, there was a little fighter. I agree,
that said Muhammad al Lei.

Speaker 4 (01:22:02):
As you know on Every Business Words podcast, I pay
homise to the inimitable doctor Martin Luther King Jr.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
In America's sixteenth president. Abriy, I'm nikod. What are they
tell Congress right now?

Speaker 5 (01:22:12):
This?

Speaker 2 (01:22:12):
What do we want reparations?

Speaker 10 (01:22:15):
What do we want it?

Speaker 11 (01:22:16):
Now?

Speaker 4 (01:22:17):
Say it again?

Speaker 2 (01:22:18):
What do they want reparations? What do you want it?

Speaker 3 (01:22:22):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:22:22):
Say it again? What are we want reparations?

Speaker 11 (01:22:26):
What do they want it now?

Speaker 4 (01:22:28):
I thank you, I appreciate you, and I hope that
you have me super fantastic days.

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